Lol.....
Got you know Roy, I understand your concerns perfectly.
No, this is your "typical"
esoteric-patch-for-someone-looking-for-the-hard-way-of-doing-things kinda
job.
I guess now I just DL RoadSend, Benchmark, and see for myself :)
Computer Guru
NeoSmart Technologies
http://neosmart.net/blog/
> -----Original Message-----
> From: wp-hackers-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:wp-hackers-
> bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Roy Schestowitz
> Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 3:30 PM
> To: wp-hackers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: [wp-hackers] Just a thought: Compiled WordPress
>
> ___/ On Sun 22 Oct 2006 12:59:12 BST, [ Computer Guru ] wrote : \___
>
> > OK... maybe I'm lost.
> >
> > First, thanks for the reply Roy.. But I'm not seeing these issues.
> >
> > I thought "compiled PHP" means that you take the PHP files, put them
> through
> > Phalanger/RoadSend, and then serve the compiled code instead.
> > No one "makes these files available," rather every time I make a
> change to
> > my site, add a plugin, modify a line of code or else update from SVN
> - I
> > recompile it via the program.
> >
> > I think it's on-the-fly compilation, i.e. they serve the PHP files
> instead
> > of the PHP CGI/SAPI extension....
>
>
> "On-the-fly compilation" stands out as an oxymoron. *smile*
>
>
> > It's nothing to do with the distribution, and the code doesn't
> change: I
> > don't get C++ code out and then run the executable, rather every time
> I
> > change the PHP code I have RoadSend re-compile and display the new
> > content....
>
>
> If you seek minor gains, then you could, in principle, run an
> optimiser through the code. It would strip off comments, shorten
> variable names, but made no syntactic changes. Then, if you wish to
> modify the source, go to the original branch, edit, and reduce the
> complexity of the code again. I wonder if benchmarks exist to show how
> this affects WordPress performance. This could get interesting,
> although it depends on a myriad of factors (e.g. server specs, tasks
> tested, optimisation type, cache/nocache).
>
>
> >> <snip />
> >> Consequently, this translates to
> >> less hacking (the benevolent connotation), which empowers
> >> WordPress through plug-ins and bug fixes (reports and
> >> patches). And that's just one among many beneficial aspects
> >> that you would lose.
> >
> > I don't see that: I install WP on my server, add the plugins I want,
> then
> > compile the whole enchilada.
>
>
> This assumes that you know what you are doing. I thought that you
> proposed compiling WordPress and making available to Joe Bloggs.
>
>
> >> Why not create static pages (selectively, of course)? If I
> >> recall correctly, there was a long thread about this in the
> >> end of April. I suspect that there are plugins that address
> >> the issue of server spikes and heavy loads.
> >
> > Too much hassle - this is a set-it-and-forget-it kind of thing :) and
> it's
> > always on just in case of an unexpected traffic spike.
>
>
> With /. you're talking about orders of magnitude (at least for most of
> the WP-based Web sites out there). A marginal performance gain that's
> attributed to compilation is unlikely to {save the day}^tm, so to
> speak.
>
>
> >> I'm afraid I can't offer an answer, but if it was over to
> >> become a downloadable edition, imagine the implications on:
> >>
> >> * Security updates
> >>
> >> * Plugins (hooks, modification, etc)
> >>
> >> * Maintaining multiple distributions
> >>
> >> * More stuff...
> >
> > Again, unless I'm reading it wrong, that's not the way compiled PHP
> goes.
> > It's a per-user kind of thing, not a "fork" or something that I can
> put up
> > on my site for other people to use. Am I wrong? Sorry... My first
> experience
> > with compiled PHP.
>
>
> I was wrongly assuming that you want this option to reach people who
> are not Computer Gurus.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Roy
>
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