Parish wrote:
> On 13/03/2005 18:21 Richard Cole gurgled:
>
>> On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 10:25:03 +0000, Roy Schestowitz
>> <newsgroups@schestowitz.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Mark & Ana Jones wrote:
>>>> A neighbour of mine has a new website displayed on his van (but not on
>>>> the web!). It is a .org.uk domain rather than a .co.uk or a dot com
>>>> which is the usual practice.
>>>> I was under the impression that dot Org's were for "Organisations" -
>>>> usually non-profit making etc and not businesses. Can anyone shed any
>>>> light on my assumptions please.
>>>Domain suffixes are intended to bring order to the Web, but unfortunately
>>>they are not being forced. '.org' is reserved for non-profit
>>>organisations so your assumption was correct.
>>>Here are a few examples of discrepancies I am aware of:
>>>http://mookitty.co.uk/ - I am pretty sure that gal is from Arkansas.
>>>boren.nu - The guy is from Dallas, definitely not from tiny Niue.
>>>I don't know who forces suffixes (if anyone). I think domain registrars
>>>only want the revenue and will not go to great lengths and become stern
>>>w.r.t. domain names.
>> Roy, Mark & Ana
>>
>> The org.uk _should_ be as Mark & Ana suggest, but the .org is wide open
>> (My personal site is a .org [www.rcole.org] because the .com & .net had
>> already gone, although .net is supposed to be restricted to ISPs).
>>
>> There are some different registration requirements with .org against
>> .co.uk which you will see if you do a WhoIs lookup
>> [http://www.samspade.org/t/].
>>
>
> Sadly the whole .uk namespace is a mess - it must have been "designed"
> by a committee of civil servants. Nominet(?) in their infinite wisdom
> decided that the .uk TLD wouldn't be available, only SLDs in it. The
> reasoning being that it would allow different types of organization with
> the same name to have their own domain name which would, amongst other
> things, reduce the number of legal battles over who has the legal right
> to a particular domain. Some companies register multiple SLDs though,
> like .co.uk as well as the .ltd or .plc the own - even Nominet
> themselves do this, nominet.co.uk points to nominet.org.uk
>
> Having .plc.uk and .ltd.uk was well is a bad idea. The rules for these
> two domains match those for company names so if Foobar Ltd. floats on
> the Stock Market and becomes Foobar Plc. it would lose it's
> foobar.ltd.uk domain automatically but become eligible for foobar.plc.uk
> and, of course, there could be foobar.co.uk which could be another
> (non-Ltd/Plc) company or not a company at all. And many companies don't
> bother with the .ltd.uk or .plc.uk they are entitled to and just use
> .co.uk
>
> Then there's .ac.uk which is for colleges and universities, but not for
> schools, and is controlled by UKERNA not Nominet whereas schools are
> .sch.uk which _is_ controlled by Nominet.
>
> The biggest problem is that the .uk namespace flies in the face of
> Internet convention for ccTLDs - all of those I come into contact with
> regularly just use the TLD, e.g. .de, .nl, .ca, .jp, etc. Taiwan, .tw,
> possibly uses a similar system to .uk as most motherboard manufacturers
> websites are .com.tw
>
> It should have been either simply .uk or replicated the standard TLDs
> under .uk so we'd just have .com.uk (instead of .ltd|plc|co.uk), .edu.uk
> (instead of .ac|sch.uk), .net.uk, .org.uk, and .gov.uk (with
> .nhs|mod|police etc. being sub-domains of it).
>
> Parish
Speaking of Nominet's controversial actions, have a look at what they just
did:
http://go.theregister.com/feed/2005/03/15/itunes_domain_case/
Roy
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