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Re: Operating Systems in the Media

  • Subject: Re: Operating Systems in the Media
  • From: Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 07:11:40 +0000
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  • Organization: schestowitz.com / MCC / Manchester University
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__/ [erewhon] on Friday 11 November 2005 00:01 \__

> No "real" users cares about o/s and security - they just wan the vedors to
> sort it out for them.
> 
> They don't buy a car and ask if how the doors lock or if it can be stolen
> easily. They expect the vendor to have thoought about this on their behalf.
> 
> Same with OS.


True. I get your point.


> To Microsoft creidt they put a firewall in XP SP2, they added anti-spyware
> and have bought an AV company. Admittedly their AV and firewall and spyware
> products are sh1te compare to Norton/Kapersky/McAfee/Spybot/ZoneAlarm, but
> it's free and better than fuk all!
> 
> Run Xp with windows update and you are not likely to get fuked over, expect
> of course, IE and Outlook are still sh1te at blocking crap/exploit code.
> 
> XP SP2 + non IE browser + good AV + good firewall = mostly secure


Would it not be nicer to just spend 20 minutes installing an operating system
that is secure 'out of the box' and includes so much more? I am not trying
to sell anything, but I see people who use Windows every day and it's no
picnic. The resource hog resulting from the above is a true deterrent; and
it shows!

* Second browser on top of built-in Internet Explorer libraries for file
management

* Frequent reboots due to updates, which often break certain modules

* Anti-virus costs and speed penalty

* Firewall - should have been in a core (kernel) in the first place


No wonder so many people decide to buy new computers. The software demands it
unjustifiably.


__/ [erewhon] on Friday 11 November 2005 00:10 \__

>  apologies for typos - Outlook Express is supposed to check - it appears to
> not give a fuk about it's obligations.....


Outlook Express does not come with a spellchecker. Having paid for Windows,
you ironically must purchase an Office licence to get something as
fundamental as a (tree-structured) *list of words*.

Roy

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