__/ [ Rex Ballard ] on Thursday 14 December 2006 17:47 \__
> nrballardco@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
>> DFS wrote:
>> > nrballardco@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
>> > > King Cnut wrote:
>> > >> nrballardco@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
>> > >>> They probably have another super-secret document that exists
>> > >> Your daddy sucks cock.
>> > > He made one mistake, decades ago.
>
> Once, in 1979, while drunk, to meet a bar-maid who was really hot.
> Almost 2 years before I met your mother.
>
>> > You must not have read his website. And why so homophobic?
>
> He's read my web site. So has his mom.
>
>> I'm homophobic?
>
> Can't win either way, can you?
>
>> You guys are making the false claims and character attacks.
>
> It's their way.
It is indeed. Just search the UseNet archive. Try a Google Groups search on
"Rex Ballard", "Peter Kohlmann" or even myself. They try to pollute the Web
as means of retaliation. Some of the statements are carefully doctored to
intercept employment opprtunities, for example. Whether these attempts are
successful or not is another question.
>> > > What relevence does that have to
>> > > anything in this group?
>> >
>> > Your father claims to be "the leader of the Net & Linux" (direct quote
>> > from his website), and he looks good in a wig and bra and heels, so
>> > naturally everyone is curious about him.
>> >
>> > And why haven't you ever questioned the hundreds and hundreds of
>> > off-topic
>> > posts by Roy S, Roy Culley, Gidget, etc. Answer me.
>
> Roy S has lots of totally relevant content. Thinks Linux advocates
> need to know about.
Thanks.
>> I consider most of their topics to be informative and on-topic. They
>> relate directly to the benefits of open source, and to the increasingly
>> problematic nature of proprietary software.
>
> Totally appropriate to this group. Remember, Linux isn't just a
> kernel, it's an operating enviornment. Like Windows, Linux
> distributions have kernel, libraries, applications, and configuration
> and management tools.
>
> Approaches to those components are very different between Microsoft and
> Linux, and Linux is proving to be a remarkably effective competitor.
In technical terms---no doubt. The marketing and sales people remain a
barrier, but the decision-makers in the enterprise are people like
yourselves. They can be persuased once they look beyond the mumbo-jumbo.
>> > > The issue on hand is that you trolls are
>> > > making *criminal* accusations against the Linux advocates in this
>> > > group, with absolutely no evidence to back up your claims.
>> >
>> > Huh? You mean the part where Ian claims Roy S.' compulsive posting is
>> > "almost" a DOS attack? He may indeed be committing computer crimes by
>> > fraudulently using his school time and resources to post anti-MS hate
>> > and lies.
>
>> Lies? Roy S. provides sources with his posts, which are usually
>> confirmed by other sources elsewhere. Even Microsoft's own web site
>> has proven his posts to be accurate.
>
> Lots of people really like Roy's postings. They start very interesting
> and relevant discussion.
> He often combines several citations into a single posting based on a
> theme, which means fewer new topic lines, but more interesting
> discussions.
The intent of these is to provide context to a lurker, hit-and-run poster, or
searcher. Most are truthful and more recently I ignore blogs because their
facts are harder to defend. But the liability is rarely mine, which makes
personal accusations less valid. That, for example, is why you (Rex) get
many rebuttals. It is assumed that the speakers is more suitable as the
victim in a critique.
>> > > When anyone so much as asks you for URL to a document, you throw this
>> > > shit back at us.
>> >
>> > So maybe Ian S. should have said "Your daddy sucked cock." but there's
>> > no reason for you to curse.
>
> Normally, I would have suggested that Nick keep his language clean, but
> in this case, since Ian used such vulgar discription for it's shock
> value, Nick's response is appropriate.
Nick, ignore the trolls and killfile them if necessary. The trolls would use
homophobic slander to disredit people even if, as in my case, there's
nothing to support it. Some of them would repeat the lies over and over
again to create the Big Lie. It is amazing how far they would go. That's why
I just killfiled them. They waste time.
>> This had nothing to do with my dad, until Ian ran out of ideas and
>> dragged him into it. This was about Linux users *supposedly*
>> committing acts of piracy and network abuse. Still yet to be confirmed
>> by anyone.
>
> Amazing how easily these threads turn into ad-hominim attacks when you
> are winning points in the debate. Make the thread vulgar and
> discusting and people lose interest.
As the trolls appraoch this forum to vent some anger I suspect that it
actually /takes/ their interests and grabs their attention.
>> > > Do you really think that brainlessly spewing some garbage into the
>> > > opposing field is going to win any points back for your side?
>> >
>> > Don't talk about your Daddy that way!
>
> Some times I do say some silly things.
You needn't defend yourself. In fact, I'm rather surprised that you still
bother to reply to the trolls. They are not worth it.
>> > Rex Ballard: "Microsoft will lose control in 2003, and will be a
>> > minority player by the end of 2004, and there is almost nothing
>> > that Microsoft, or the Linux community can do to prevent it."
>
> I think I posted that in 2001?. Even I was surprised when Microsoft
> started force-feeding Windows XP to corporate users under an extortion
> scheme, threatining to leave them vulnerable to hackers (including
> Microsoft?) unless they signed long-term commitments for every employee
> - even if the employee didn't use computers.
>
> Microsoft has lost that iron fisted control of the market. The massive
> proliferation of OSS, especially FireFox, Thunderbird, OpenOffice, and
> other OSS tools has weakened Microsoft's hold on the market. The
> deployment of cygwin, Live-CD, and Virtualization has put Linux on the
> desktops of possibly hundreds of millions of users.
>
> In the server market, one survey indicates that 85% of the companies
> which use Linux today, will be doing much more Linux in the future,
> while only about 25% intent to deploy new windows systems.
Once you go Linux, there's no going back. Microsoft knows it. The same goes
for the Mac and yet I see people migrating from Macs to Linux in order to
settle down in state of Freedom.
>> > Rex Ballard: "I finally rewrote the TCP/IP specification...Mike loved
>> > the design...I took control of the project and moved forward with the
>> > design...
>
> I took the IETF specification, reformatted it into a document that he
> wouldn't recognize, and he liked TCP/IP. Once he admitted that the
> design was very good, I gave him the original IETF specification. He
> was such a Microsoft and Novell biggot that he wasn't even willing to
> let me say "TCP/IP" in discussion meetings. We outlined the
> requirements, and I quickly realized that TCP/IP was a perfect fit. It
> took him a little longer and some sugar coated documentation to come to
> the same conclusion.
>
>> >.After about 1 year, the project was traded to HP and Sun in
>> > exchange for various usage rights. Sun reworked the code a bit and
>> > created a new Language/Protocol called Java."
>
> I corrected this last sentence almost a year ago, but you are still
> trotting out your version.
> I pointed out that there were some clear similarities between Java RMI
> and Dow Data Protocol. In subsequent discussions, I pointed out that
> out of 25 alliance developers and corporate customers who saw these
> specifications, about 2/3 of them had very close alliances with Sun
> (using Solaris servers and tools).
>
> But you still like YOUR version better. I've corrected mine.
You should be proud. Your stalkers keep a log of your site. There are only a
few sites whose Web Archive (Wayback Machine) people bother to dig into...
Microsoft is one of these. PJ recnetly dug something about the Sun-Microsoft
deal... a transcript that was very revealing. We all have stuff that we
change, remove, or add. I used to have some different photos on my site, for
example...
>> > Rex Ballard: "Netscape took this high level project description, along
>> > with my usual 4
>> > page description of how this might be done (you can see from my posts on
>> > cola that I'm not exactly one to write short notes). A few weeks later,
>> > they had implemented SSL."
>
> What I suggested, in a mailing list (online-news or online-newspapers)
> was that they could pass the shared DES key using a public key such as
> PGP or RSA. Netscape came up with their implimentation about 2 weeks
> later. Keep in mind that by this time, Netscape and Mosaic developers
> were also actively participating in these newsgroups, as were the
> developers of WAIS.
Sounds fair.
>> > Rex Ballard: "I told the publishers about Linux and showed them how they
>> > could set up a
>> > dedicated PPP link to a local internet service provider and publish
>> > their content via the Web, for under $1000. Suddenly there were about
>> > 8000 web servers on the internet, mostly powered by Linux."
>
> OK, not so suddenly. I posted to this mailing list for almost 4 years,
> from 1993 to 1997, usually 4-6 articles/day. Unfortunately I don't
> have a complete personal archive, and the list manager doesn't have a
> complete archive either. However, several contributors have written
> books, and published "for fee" publications based on our discussions.
>
>> > Rex Ballard: "They even let me send samples of my code to Microsoft,
>> > along with my
>> > reccomendations to CP/M. We slapped copyright notices all over
>> > everything and sent it via registered mail. The decided not to hire me,
>> > and decided to use my reccomendations in MS-DOS."
>
> Nick wasn't even conceived at the time. This was 1983. In 1982, I had
> disassembled much of the BDOS portion of CP/M, and found that there
> were some useful entry points beyond those used in the BIOS calls. I
> figured out how to enhance the BDOS calls to call network servers that
> would be smarter. Prior to this, the local PC had to pull each sector
> and examine it directly. Using these BDOS entry points, it was easy to
> have a server do the disk buffer and file management on the server,
> which made the whole system much easier to manage.
Ah, well... it turns out that I'm roughly your son's age. I thought I was
among the few (if not the only) young people in this forum. It's good to
know other IT people from a generation of parity.
>> > Rex Ballard: "I noticed he only quoted the lowest MSRP for Vista $399.
>> > Ultimate is about $200 more."
>
> Than one got corrected right away didn't it. There is a substantial
> difference in price between the MSRP of Vista BASIC and Vista Ultimate.
>
>> That stuff is in COLA and on his resume. I'm talking about genuine,
>> idiotic trolling like the shit that you and Ian are trying to pull
>> right now. There's no point at all to your posts except to slander
>> people and discredit them.
>
> That's the whole point. If someone is providing clear, understandable,
> and credible reasons why users, companies, or organizations should use
> Linux and OSS instead of paying premium prices for Microsoft
> Monopolyware, the only thing they can do is start trying to attack the
> credibility.
>
> I've written almost 10 pages/day for almost 10 years in COLA postings.
> Yet DFS seems to harp on 4 paragraphs which even I have retracted to
> one degree or another.
>
> You must be a very effective advocate indeed if DFS is going after you
> by trying to throw my 4 paragraphs of mistakes in your face as a way to
> try and discredit you. I've read many of you posts and you are doing
> very well. I'm proud of you.
DFS has some real obsession with people. I don't consider him socially apt.
>> > > Face it...you are the frantic defenders of a system and a
>> > > culture that is already dead.
>> >
>> > Dead how? Everyone still uses Windows servers and desktop clients and
>> > apps,
>
> Everyone?
> Everyone uses Google and uses Web browsers to interact with Linux and
> Unix systems to buy and sell goods via the Web. Everyone uses Linux
> powered firewalls, routers, and WiFi hubs to protect themselves from
> viruses, worms, and spyware - because Microsoft's products are so full
> of holes that it's now costing $60 billion/year in PRIMARY damages.
>
> Not everyone does anything. Yes, a substantial number of people use
> Windows applications as part of their daily office activities. And a
> substantial number of people use Linux and OSS applications a part of
> their daily office activities.
>
> Linux and OSS aren't going away any time soon.
> Microsoft may not be going away, but a substantial shift, even 15-25%
> shift away from Microsoft could trigger a stock price collapse. It
> wouldn't put Billy in the poor-house, but it might put a pretty deep
> dent into the pockets of those Microsoft stock-holders who margined or
> borrowed on their stocks.
>
> One of the reasons Microsoft signed with Novell, is because Microsoft
> is becoming acutely aware that it needs Linux more than Linux needs
> Microsoft. The OEMs are looking at Apple and the double-digit growth
> of Mac shipments, and Apple profit margins on those Macs, and they want
> the same kinds of growth and profit that Apple is making.
>
> Microsoft is even distancing themselves from the PC market. Today, OS
> sales is a relatively small percentage of their entire revenue. They
> get revenue from Xboxes, Media services, and other unregulated
> industries, as well as getting "off the top" revenue from numerous
> "strategic partners" providing services to regulated industries, such
> as Real Estate, Travel, Employment, and securities trading.
>
>> > and commercial software development and sales will continue to be the
>> > dominant means of software production for decades, if not forever.
>
> To quote "The fox and the hound"; "Forever is a long time".
>
> Imagine what would happen to the united states if all non-profit
> organizations and government services were suddenly shut down
> completely. No PBS, no churches, no soup kitchens, no homeless
> shelters, no legal aid, no pro-bono health care, no united way, no
> research into the cure of diseases.
>
> The crime rate would start to soar, as people who were on the verge of
> death would be engaged in violent crimes to get the money to feed their
> children and themselves. Hookers would be on the streets passing
> around AIDS and other fatal STDs. Water would be loaded with parasites
> killing about 1/3 of those who drank it. Insect borne diseases would
> spread rapidly, with viruses and parasites killing as many people in
> the United States as would die in Africa.
>
> Gangs would rule the streets, and mobsters would run the businesses.
> With no watchdog groups to track and audit the activities of these
> organizations, we would revert back to the days when the gangs of New
> York engaged in open violence. And the gangs WERE the police
> department.
>
> Drugs, toxic chemicals, and unregulated vice would trigger even more
> deaths, especially amaong the middle class. The homes of the wealthy
> would be destroyed as terrorists, kids 12-14 years old, started turning
> Westchester and Silicon Valley and Bellview into sites that looked more
> like Bagdad.
>
> In the 1920s, the government "stepped aside". Within 10 years, the
> United States was in the Great Depression. All because "big business"
> was given free rein, and government stepped aside. Gangsters and
> Mobsters ran the towns, they became the government. And the government
> was powerless to stop them.
>
>> > MS sales continue to rise every year, as they have at least since the
>> > company went
>> > public. XBox 360 and/or Direct3D/10 titles assure them dominance in
>> > gaming for a long while.
>
> Or at least until the PS/3 becomes more widely available.
>
> Microsoft is diversifying their business, because OS and Office revenue
> is looking more and more uncertain.
>
> Look at that other company that had a product that was fading out.
> Novell saw that NetWare was reaching the end of it's life-cycle, and
> they brought in Linux. Now they are looking to make $240 million from
> Microsoft alone.
>
>> > Nearly every corporation in the world runs mostly MS
>> > products. They recently inked a deal for $1.2 billion of software for
>> > Lenovo.
>
> But look at the trends. Linux is growing at double-digit rates per
> quarter. OSS products like FireFox and Open Office are seeing over 200
> million deployments in a year, and their growth rates are still very
> high.
>
> The United States is far more loyal to Microsoft than Asia, South
> America, or Africa. Countries with total populations of over 4 billion
> are on the verge of ignoring Microsoft althogether, or at least
> substantially reducing their dependence on Microsoft.
>
> Many western companies are also looking at ways to reduce their
> dependence on Microsoft as well. It totally irks most CEOs and CFOs
> that they have to cut costs to maintain even 10% profit margins while
> Microsoft rakes in 85% profit margins. In many companies, the
> Microsoft related expenses are almost equal to 20% of the total
> payroll. That wouldn't be so bad if Windows was doubling total
> productivity of the labor force, but Microsoft hasn't produced a
> substantial increase in productivity since Windows 2000. Most of the
> productivity they do provide is offset by the impacts of malware.
>
>> > So where exactly do you think MS\Windows is going?
>
> Probably about the same place that Chrysler went in the late 1970s.
> Remember, Chrysler lost touch with the market, they kept making muscle
> cars when the customer was looking for economy. Honda, Nissan(Datsun),
> Toyota, Volkswagon, and numerous other Asian and European competitors
> ended up dominating the US market, because US "Big 3" auto makers
> didn't listen to the market until it was too late.
>
>> Who gives a crap about current trends? Their numbers, contracts,
>> partnerships, etc. are all just a bunch of hype to keep them afloat for
>> as long as they can manage. Eventually, people will start to realize
>> that Microsoft has gone about as far as they can go.
>
> Greyhound doesn't drive the bus anymore (they sell them to Trailways an
> other carriers who drive the vehicles for them). Goodyear doesn't make
> all-rubber tire anymore, they use combinations of steel, fiberglass,
> and polyester to make tires that are stronger and last longer. Ford
> doesn't make Model T's anymore.
>
> When a monopoly gets the "wake up call" from the market, it's usually a
> bit ugly. AT&T, IBM, Railroads, Banks, and Sinclair oil, all got
> unpleasant wake-up calls when hit with a double-whammy of market
> backlash, voter backlash, and the resulting government regulation or
> deregulation.
>
> Even bribing politicians by donating to their favorite charities,
> eventually backfires. Casino Jack Abramov got a boatload of money from
> lots of big companies, including Microsoft, who donated money to
> high-sounding charities which then laundered the money into PACS. But
> once the story was blown open, the funding machine fell apart, and
> suddenly all of those donations had become a liability. Bill Moyers
> did a really good documentary on this.
>
>> > Talk about "no evidence to back up your claims". You need to get some
>> > reading and experience under your belt before you barge in here spewing
>> > lightweight fluff
>> > like this, Bailo... I mean Roy... I mean Peter... I mean Nick.
>>
>> That was just a hunch, but my hunches tend to be accurate from time to
>> time.
>
> Rex (Nick's dad).
I just think it's truly a shame when good posts are filed under the headling
"My Bozo bin". As usual, I'm not going to proofread or spellcheck, but I
just thought I'd jump in and say a few words because I rarely find the time
to reply to your excellent posts. They make my contribution seem
insignificant.
Nick, anything the trolls say comes from the gutter. If you ever listen to
their rubbish, make sure you grab a barrel of salt beforehand.
--
~~ Kind greetings and happy holidays!
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