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Re: [News] More on Rootkits; Vista Holey Even Before Release?

On 14 Jul 2006 13:01:43 -0400, Ray Ingles <sorceror@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:


>On 2006-07-14, Mathew P. <Mathew@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> On 2006-07-13, Ray Ingles spake thusly:
>>>  This isn't a flaw in Vista, any more than the existence of rootkits for
>>> Linux is a flaw in Linux.

>> Which would be a valid point if Windows as a platform wasn't so *easily*
>> susceptible to rootkits already. This is documented fact, not assertion.

> Why do people think I'm defending Windows here? I'm not. Windows does
>have major security issues, ones that I don't see MS addressing
>effectively (or in some cases at all). But rootkits are *not* a
>Windows-specific problem.

Sure it is.  The windows way of doing things is to have users run with
all system protections disabled (administrators) and to auto run CDS.
You can destroy just about any windows system just by poping in a CD.

I can't think of any other OS that sloppy.
Pop in an audio CD into linux and it can't install system software.  The
difference is that linux doesn't autorun and linux users aren't root.

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