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Re: Microsoft Accused of Astroturfing

  • Subject: Re: Microsoft Accused of Astroturfing
  • From: "spam" <gtdavies33@xxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: 11 Jul 2006 21:27:01 -0700
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Tim Smith wrote:
> In article <10221958.36AVsFFUy9@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Roy Schestowitz wrote:
> > ,----[ Quote ]
> >| "Some years back, Microsoft practiced a lot of dirty tricks using
> >| online mavens to go into forums and create Web sites extolling the virtues
> >| of Windows over OS/2. They were dubbed the Microsoft Munchkins, and it
> >| was obvious who they were and what they were up to. But their numbers
> >| and energy (and they way they joined forces with nonaligned dummies who
> >| liked to pile on) proved too much for IBM marketers, and Windows won
> >| the operating-system war through fifth-column tactics"
> > `----
>
> Nonsense.  OS/2 lost because IBM didn't even *try* to seriously market it,
> and they provided very poor support for developers.
>
> On the marketing side, IBM did little or no in-store promotional efforts,
> leaving OS/2 to rot on the bottom shelf in the darkest corner of the most
> remote aisle.  Where were the endcaps?  No where--because that would require
> spending money to promote OS/2.  Where was the co-marketing programs to help
> OS/2 developers get their products on the shelves?  No where--that would
> require spending money on OS/2.
>
> On the developer side, to get into IBM's developer program, you had to fill
> out a long application, and then if they deemed you worthly, you could spend
> a lot of money to get the SDK.  To get started in Windows development, on
> the other hand, all you had to do was walk into any major software store
> with a couple hundred bucks in hand, and you could walk out with developer
> tools and a copy of the MSDN Library.  You didn't have to beg Microsoft for
> permission to develop for Windows.  It was actually cheaper and easier to
> become a Windows 95 developer *before* *launch* than it was to become an
> OS/2 developer long after OS/2 was on sale to the public.
>
> MS has done a lot of bad things, but OS/2's demise isn't one of them.  That
> was killed by IBM's indifference.
>

Then the Bartko and Diamond affairs were a waste of MS's time?

> -- 
> --Tim Smith


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