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Re: [News] Agri Replaces DB2, Chooses Open Source

  • Subject: Re: [News] Agri Replaces DB2, Chooses Open Source
  • From: yttrx@xxxxxxxxx (yttrx)
  • Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2006 23:27:34 GMT
  • Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy
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Hadron Quark <qadronhuark@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes:
>> __/ [ yttrx ] on Sunday 15 October 2006 22:12 \__
>>> Erik Funkenbusch <erik@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>> On 14 Oct 2006 22:47:43 -0700, Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>>>>> Agri Stats Selects Enterprise Open Source DB, Dumps IBM DB2
>>>>> ,----[ Quote ]
>>>>>| The renowned stability and reliability of EnterpriseDB's PostgreSQL
>>>>>| foundation was a key factor in Agri Stats? decision to replace DB2
>>>>>| with EnterpriseDB. Since the switch, Agri Stats has enjoyed
>>>>>| trouble-free operation.
>>>>> `----
>>>>> http://in.sys-con.com/read/284787_p.htm
>>>> Postgre is a good database.  Frankly, it makes no sense to pay huge
>>>> amounts of money for Oracle or DB2 when there are totally free
>>>> alternatives that
>>>> meet 100% of your needs.  Including Postgre, SQL Server Express, and (in
>>>> some case) MySQL.
>>> Maybe you should just stick with being a windows lackey over there at
>>> St. Paul College, where nothing actually matters.
>> Dude, you're really protective when it comes to UNIXes, Solaris in
>> particular. I understand that you deal with DB2 in your daytime job, but why
>> disregard MySQL which has been proven to be highly competitive?
> mySQL would not even be considered in any mission/data critical data
> centre. Its why, even with mySQL being free, Ellison is a billionaire
> ....
> Don't get me wrong : it has improved a lot. But a lot of the improvements
> are simply too new to be proven in an environment where data is king.
> And what was yttrx's chief whine about it? Inability to do hot backups
> wasn't it? Something similar ...

Hot dumps, and thats not the only thing wrong with it.  I've expounded
on this topic in great detail many times.

>From the MYSQL docs:

"DROP DATABASE seemingly drops each table, first, in arbitrary order. 
Since the ordering is arbitrary, it may drop them in the 'wrong' 
order. In this case, you'll get the message ... and half of your 
tables will be gone, the other half remaining. You can repeatedly 
execute "DROP DATABASE" commands and each time (at least for me), 
MySQL gets closer to an empty database, at which point, the database 
itself is dropped."

There's no excuse for that shit at all.

Also, using its fulltext "feature", you cannot update existing
rows with words already indexed, because it blows up.

Also, MYSQL implements different features on different platforms.
On windows for example, if you create the tablename TESTTABLE, 
you can only access it as "testtable".  MYSQL reverts to the 
case sensitivity of the operating system, which is utter crap.

Also, MYSQL has no support for triggers or stored procedures, 
which even MSSQL supports, let alone postgres, DB2, sybase, and

I could go on and on, and have many times.  MYSQL is crap.



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