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Re: Ubuntu

  • Subject: Re: Ubuntu
  • From: Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2006 12:46:26 +0100
  • Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy
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__/ [ [H]omer ] on Friday 08 September 2006 00:37 \__

> Linonut wrote:
>> After takin' a swig o' grog, ?CoffeehouseSchmuck? belched out this bit o'
>> wisdom:
>> 
>>> why does it take so stinking long to install?


Took me just 20 minutes on a modern machine, IIRC. Versions 4 and 5. The
updates took longer, but nothing on par with a big and fat Service Pack, let
alone the utterly unecessary software that has somehow mandatory for a PC's
survival.


>> If you compare it to installing Windows /and/ all the software you need,
>> then it doesn't take very long at all.


Bingo.


> Yeah exactly; a Linux distro is *not* just an OS.
> 
> This FC5 box took 25 mins to install, including updates and "extras"
> (pulled from a local YAM server). I ended up with about 1000 packages,
> including, in alphabetical order:
> 
> acroread, amarok, apollon, aspell, audacity, beagle, cdparanoia,
> cdrecord, celestia, cups, dvdauthor, dvdstyler, emacs, evolution, faad2,
> festival, file-roller, firefox, firestarter, flac, gimp-2, gnupg,
> gthumb, hexedit, httpd, ImageMagick, k3b, lame, lxdvdrip, mjpegtools,
> mplayer, mysql, openoffice.org, perl, php, rsync, ruby, sendmail,
> spamassassin, theora-tools, thunderbird, transcode, vim, vnc-server,
> vorbis-tools, wget, and yum.
> 
> Not to mention all the usual services and "core" software, like
> iptables, coreutils, kde, gnome, fluxbox, SELinux, Xorg, etc.


Just looking at the list helps one realise that only a fraction of the
functionality of Linux is used in practice. And yet, it is an efficient O/S
that scales well with extension.


> I'd like to see *Windows* install the commercial equivalents of all that
> (plus itself) and another 950 packages, in 25 minutes!
> 
> Then again, think how much it would *cost* to install all those
> commercial equivalents (Photoshop et al)!


I've seen figures.

"A University image? How about a shiny new Polo instead?"

Best wishes,

Roy

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