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Re: DoJ-Microsoft Antitrust - Let It Just Wait Until 2012...

  • Subject: Re: DoJ-Microsoft Antitrust - Let It Just Wait Until 2012...
  • From: Peter Hayes <not_in_use@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2006 11:31:06 +0100
  • Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy
  • Organization: Zzzzz
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On Fri, 1 Sep 2006 10:08:47 +0100, Hadron Quark wrote
(in article <87ac5kdkdc.fsf@xxxxxxxx>):

> Peter Hayes <not_in_use@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes:
> 
>> On Thu, 31 Aug 2006 23:38:29 +0100, DFS wrote
>> (in article <vvJJg.40579$j8.871@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>):
>> 
>>> Peter Hayes wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 31 Aug 2006 23:00:55 +0100, DFS wrote
>>>> (in article <hYIJg.40439$j8.16928@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>):
>>>> 
>>>>> If MS doesn't include anti-virus programs, Linux whiners whine.  If
>>>>> MS does include anti-virus programs, Linux whiners whine.
>>>> 
>>>> Yeup, that's the price Microsoft are paying for their past behaviour.
>>> 
>>> Nah... that's just petulant cola behavior.
>>> 
>>> If MS bundles an app like a photo mgmt tool, cola whiners whine they're 
>>> "anti-competitive, driving everyone out of business".  If MS doesn't 
>>> bundle an app like a photo mgmt tool, cola whiners whine "Windows 
>>> doesn't come with any apps!"
>>> 
>>> MS\Windows can't win with a cola bozo.
>> 
>> The best example of Microsoft's previous behaviour bundling Internet 
>> Explorer with Windows 9.x for the sole purpose of destroying Netscape.
> 
> When wasnt it "bundled"?

Windows 95 OEM Service Release 1 was the first release of Windows to include 
Internet Explorer.

>> Because of that particular piece of chicanery the rest of the planet has 
>> had to pick up the tab for trillions of $$$ worth of security exploits over
>> the eleven years since.
> 
> New tonfoil hat requried : size extra large.

No - just fact. IE was, and still is, the biggest threat to computer 
security. Add up the billions lost to individuals and organisations through 
down time from the man-millenia spent reformatting and reinstalling, the 
billions lost from bank accounts worldwide thanks to spyware and trojans. The 
cumulative cost runs in to trillions. Almost all these losses are through 
security holes in IE.
 
>> Now we have Microsoft destroying the A/V companies' businesses, and the DoJ 
>> just stand back and let them away with it.
> 
> How are they destroying it?

By offering a cheaper service that could appear more efficient since 
Microsoft have access to the source code.

> Is competition a bad thing?

No, but competition and Microsoft in the same sentence is a non sequitur.

> Linux destroyed it from day one....

Yes, Linux has the potential to destroy the A/V market - a market that 
shouldn't have existed in the first place.

-- 

Peter


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