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Re: [News] Microsoft Tells Developers, Not Only Manufacturers, How to Build and Design

  • Subject: Re: [News] Microsoft Tells Developers, Not Only Manufacturers, How to Build and Design
  • From: flatfish+++ <flatfish@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2006 20:04:12 -0400
  • Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy
  • Organization: mariana.trench
  • References: <2043993.KcAIU0se0x@schestowitz.com> <cz9qhqx5papx.dlg@funkenbusch.com> <fpjgu3-8mo.ln1@clark.harry.net> <40mgu3-vmo.ln1@ellandroad.demon.co.uk> <j2ogu3-vbs.ln1@dog.did.it> <87sliiw7fc.fsf@geemail.com>
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  • Xref: news.mcc.ac.uk comp.os.linux.advocacy:1159152
On Sun, 24 Sep 2006 00:21:27 +0200, Hadron Quark wrote:

> rgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx (Roy Culley) writes:
> 
>> begin  risky.vbs
>> 	<40mgu3-vmo.ln1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
>> 	Mark Kent <mark.kent@xxxxxxxxxxx> writes:
>>> begin  oe_protect.scr 
>>> Sinister Midget <phydeaux@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> espoused:
>>>> On 2006-09-23, Erik Funkenbusch <erik@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> posted something concerning:
>>>>> On Sat, 23 Sep 2006 18:56:26 +0100, Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Speaking of need for freedom...
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Will Zune begin instructing artists on how to compose their music?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Microsoft Vista User Interface Guidelines Published
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ,----[ Quote ]
>>>>>>| "Microsoft has published the preliminary Official User Interface
>>>>>>| Guidelines for Windows Vista. Highlights include Top 12 Rules
>>>>>>| for the Windows Vista User Experience ? and the use of
>>>>>>| screenshots from Windows XP as examples of what not to do. The
>>>>>>| full guidelines are as yet incomplete, but what is there makes
>>>>>>| for interesting reading."  >>>> `----
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> http://developers.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/09/23/0551208&from=rss
>>>>>
>>>>> What a fucking moron you are Roy.
>>>>>
>>>>> Microsoft, as well as Apple, and many Unix vendors publish style
>>>>> guidelines.
>>>> 
>>>><quote>
>>>>    and the use of screenshots from Windows XP as an example of what
>>>>    not to do
>>>></quote>
>>>> 
>>>> Won't eat their own dog food. But not exactly news, though. When
>>>> was the last time they followed their own "standards"?
>>>> 
>>>><paraphrase>
>>>> What a fucking moron you are Erik.
>>>></paraphrase>
>>> 
>>> You can tell how successful Roy is being here when you see that the
>>> Erik F trollname is resorting to gutter language and abuse.  It's
>>> been a long time, hasn't it, but it's there now.  It would be nice
>>> to say that I feel sorry for him, but I can't say that I do.  I find
>>> it hard to grasp what motivates people with no principles.
>>
>> I hate to say it but Erik is right on this one. GUI guidlines are
>> important. Sun produced 2 books on Openlook. One for GUI developers
>> and one covering style. Motif had loads of docs on this as well. No
>> doubt kde and gnome have similar docs.
>>
>> Roy's criticism of MS is wrong here IMHO.
> 
> Did you never even read of CUA compliance .....
> 
> Its been quite common for, oh I dont know, the beginning of time.

IBM used to have a Redbook on CUA.
They might still have it.


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