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Re: [News] Proof that Windows is Not Ready for the Desktop

  • Subject: Re: [News] Proof that Windows is Not Ready for the Desktop
  • From: Kelsey Bjarnason <kbjarnason@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 14:00:30 -0700
  • Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy
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  • Xref: news.mcc.ac.uk comp.os.linux.advocacy:1158648
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On Wed, 20 Sep 2006 18:28:39 -0500, Erik Funkenbusch wrote:

> Apart from the stuff that you can get as a free download or inexpensive
> add-in (such as virtual desktops), here's everything that's wrong:

So it's not built in the way it is with KDE?  Why not?  Pretty lame.


> Klipper:  Office XP and 2003 include a clipboard manager tool.

Oh, good, spend a couple hundred bucks on an Office suite in order to get
clipboard management that works.  Funny, KDE has it built in.

> There's also any number of free ones like ClipDiary

Built-in, right?  Whoops, nope.

> XP has a user configurable set of "panels" for common tasks, but you
> have to use the new menu (which morons like this seem to always turn off
> right away, then bitch because functionality they want isn't there when
> they deliberately turned it off).

So you have to choose between functionality and a layout or look you don't
want, or a layout and look you do want, but lose the functionality? 
Pretty lame.  Why can't it just be customizable as it should?

> He complains about the behavior of the control panel, but he's using it
> in HTML mode, which works like HTML links (single click) if he wants
> double clicks, go to classic view.

He's complaining, apparently, that other items require double-clicks and
the like, while control panel doesn't.  If the UI uses single-clicks, it
should use single-clicks.  Not double in some places, single in others. 
Don't know that KDE is perfect in this regard, but Windows is horribly
inconsistent in its UI.

> Screenshots:  He claims you can't capture a single window but is wrong,
> Alt-Prtscrn captures the currently selected window

And what captures the desktop in its entirety?  Where's the delay button?
The interface for selecting which window to capture?  How many formats
does alt-printscreen support saving the capture in?

> Run As: Yes, it does work with control panel apps, you have to use
> shift-right-click

I've noticed this one myself, several times; run-as, even with
shift-right-click not appearing in many places.  IIRC, going to the menu
and, say, running Word, you can shift-right and get the RunAs option, but
not if you try the same with running the control panel that way.  Why is
running X that way supported, but not running Y?

> Every desktop looking the same, not true at all.  Plenty of free and
> cheap tools to customize your desktop any way you like, moving buttons
> around or removing them entirely.

And of course, like KDE, they're bundled.

So, all in all what you're saying is that the functionality we get built
in *may* be possible to find in XP... if you're willing to dick around
hunting for and possibly buying, then installing an endless collection of
additional tools.  All to get what we get without any additional effort.

Yup.  Very flexible system you're using.  All that work to do what we can
accomplish with zero.  Must be a massive productivity enhancer.



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