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Re: [Roy Schestowitz Lies Again] Company Dumps .NET Software, Finds Happiness in Open Source

  • Subject: Re: [Roy Schestowitz Lies Again] Company Dumps .NET Software, Finds Happiness in Open Source
  • From: Tim Smith <reply_in_group@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2007 18:50:26 -0700
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In article <dL6dnfO4kbGrr7zbnZ2dnUVZ_rDinZ2d@xxxxxxxxxxx>,
 Maverick <Sun@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>Show me where he stated this?
> > 
> > 
> > "Company Dumps .NET Software".  Right there in the "Subject" line.  
> > Written by Roy.
> > 
> 
> And also in the article.

Where is it in the article?  Since you apparently haven't actually READ 
the article, allow me to quote the whole thing for you:

> Open source SplendidCRM a sweet alternative for ".Net-centric" SAAS provider
> April 06, 2007 (8:01:00 PM)
> By: Tina Gasperson
>   
> A "Microsoft-centric" call center solution provider called Promero worked 
> mostly with proprietary applications, offering them as hosted 
> software-as-a-service products. When it decided to create a custom 
> replacement by cobbling together an existing CRM package and its own 
> lead-generating application, CTO Roman Schepis quickly discovered that the 
> only way to go was to use an open source CRM application.
> 
> 
> Promero calls itself an on-demand provider of customer relationship 
> management software, which is hosted on its own servers. Users can log on 
> from anywhere in the world, using any kind of platform. The custom software 
> includes a virtual call center and autodialer from Oracle, Promero's ProStar 
> CRM, which is a spin-off of SplendidCRM, and Promero's own iLeadMachine, 
> which manages leads and provides analysis and reports. Promero uses this 
> software internally to generate and manage leads, and it also sells the 
> software to other companies that operate on a telemarketing model.
> Originally, Promero tried using proprietary CRMs such as Onyx. "It was a nice 
> product," Schepis says, "but it was kind of heavy lifting to get it deployed 
> for each client." Because the code wasn't open, Promero had to rely on the 
> vendor for changes.
> In order to make the customization process more flexible, and save money on 
> licensing fees, Schepis decided to take a look at open source. "In 2006 we 
> implemented SugarCRM and we tested that for about six months," he says. But 
> Sugar didn't go over well with Promero's .Net-experienced team of developers. 
> "It was a challenge doing PHP," Schepis says. "It was more difficult for our 
> developers; we had to go out and buy PHP for Dummies and start from scratch. 
> Even though there are a lot of support groups out there, because of the 
> learning curve our cycle to get things done was extended. It wasn't a good 
> fit."
> Still, the fact that Schepis' team wasn't comfortable with the new 
> development environment wasn't a deal breaker. "We were almost OK to live 
> with the learning curve," he says, but the real problem was that Sugar's 
> native PHP code didn't run well on Promero's server platform. "We were 
> receiving leads and doing sales activities. We probably could have thrown 
> lots of hardware at it and made it run faster, but it was just too sluggish 
> in a hosted environment."
> Schepis was determined to find an open source product suited to his purposes, 
> "because we wanted to use it for the integration. We had a need to integrate 
> the on-demand product in a way that wasn't exorbitantly expensive." The next 
> product Schepis tried was the SplendidCRM. He was pleased. "It has additional 
> features and some higher level functions than Sugar," he says. "And it is 
> .Net-centric, so it is a clean fit."
> Schepis says that Splendid's focus on Microsoft platforms made it simple to 
> deploy and maintain. "It runs a lot faster on the same hardware," he says. 
> "All of our users were very excited to see that performance increase. And 
> because it is a .Net and SQL Server back end, we can do native integration, 
> where with Sugar we had to do some middleware stuff."
> Schepis says he learned a valuable lesson during this process. "The alignment 
> of the underlying technology with your company's internal strengths and 
> knowledge is the most important thing. We tried using PHP and MySQL and 
> Apache -- it was pretty much foreign to us. We found success with open source 
> by using what our guys know how to use."
> Now that he's gained some practical experience with an open source 
> application, Schepis says he'd use it again. "So long as there's existing 
> knowledge, or an easy way to get up to speed, there's no difference between 
> using open source and commercial. Actually, there's an additional benefit, 
> because you have access to the source and the licensing fees are much lower. 
> Just make sure you set your expectations in line with the experience level of 
> the people who are going to implement it for you."

They did not dump .NET software.  In fact, they evaluated non-.NET 
software, and decided to go with .NET software.  This is the *opposite* 
of what Roy's headline claims.

-- 
--Tim Smith

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