On 2007-08-12, Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> ____/ waterskidoo on Sunday 12 August 2007 06:20 : \____
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>> On 2007-08-12, Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>> Well, what is the "public"? Surely, iPhone is for a niche. Can Google's
>>> phone address the needs of /everybody/? It's a little like the distro
>>> debate. Not everyone requires the same functionality or can bear the same
>>> size(scale/capacity)/design.
>>
>> A product that people wait in line for is not a niche product.
>> Granted most people will never NEED all the features of an iPhone
>> but that doesn't matter because it is a marketing thing.
>> IOW people WANT the iPhone.
>
> Not many people can afford it or accept the contract. Desire (WANT) is separate
> from demand that materialises.
>
>> Will they WANT the Linux phone?
>
> Depends on the phone. Linux is just means of making phones more attractive
> (applications and third-party developers) and more affordable. A Nokia exec
> also talked about development speed the other day.
>
>>> At the end of the day, there is no 'perfect phone'. You could argue that
>>> most people use Windows XP, so it must the perfect desktop operating system,
>>> but that's where you have other factors to consider. Are people offered
>>> choice? Is there lock-in?
>>
>> People don't care about lock in.
>> Bloggers care about lock in.
>> People care about gadgets and what is kool.
>> It's like saying to someone, 'you know that American flag you
>> put on your porch on 4th of July is made in China?'
>> They don't care.
>
> Care != know.
>
> Also, people think of lock-in in different terms, but they understand some
> things better.
>
> DRM to a technical person is "I lost all my music collection" to another less
> tech-savvy person. Seen those studies on DRM-free music recently?
>
>>> While we have lock-in (plenty more to come with XPS/XAML/OOXML), the choice
>>> factor is being addressed. Large OEMs stock Linux laptop and desktop PCs.
>>
>> But who is actually buying?
>> Linux savvy people or average everyday people?
>
> Some average everyday people, according to Dell Computers.
>
>> Why doesn't Dell for example have an advertising campaign for
>> their Linux systems?
>
> It'll elevate cost and make existing Linux user feel like sheep. It alienates.
> You don't advertise water or oil, but people continue to consume it. Software
> ceases to be a commodity that people were led to believe it is.
>
>> Their "back to school" advertisements are all over the toob in USA
>> now.
>> All Windows Vista.
>> Why is that?
>> These are the questions that need to be addressed.
>
> The day that Linux starts advertisting in this way is the day that I will move
> to BSD or whatever. Linux is about freedom. Linux is about a different way.
>
> The day that Linux accepts nothing but binary drivers and does back to school
> Tux ads is the day it becomes OS X. I don't want OS X. It is just about as
> evil is Vista.
>
I agree with what you are saying Roy which is why I left post in tact.
Very interesting points you make here.
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