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[News] [Rival] Microsoft IE8 Expected to be Breaking the Web (Again)

  • Subject: [News] [Rival] Microsoft IE8 Expected to be Breaking the Web (Again)
  • From: Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 08 Dec 2007 21:09:06 +0000
  • Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy
  • Organization: Netscape / schestowitz.com
  • User-agent: KNode/0.10.4
IE8

,----[ Quote ]
| Don't ask what it's going to fix. Ask what it's going to break... And I'm not 
| even kidding : 
| 
|     " I do realize that there is a new engine, there is some other 
|     information, and this information is not being made public — we are being 
|     asked not to talk about it " -- Molly Holzschlag  
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http://www.glazman.org/weblog/dotclear/index.php?post/2007/12/06/IE8

.NET, XAML and other BS come to mind.


Related:

Mozilla, Microsoft drawing sabers over next JavaScript

,----[ Quote ]
| Eich charged in turn that Microsoft's arguments are self-serving. "At best, 
| we have a fundamental conflict of visions and technical values between the 
| majority and the minority," he wrote. "However, the obvious conflict of 
| interest between the standards-based web and proprietary platforms advanced 
| by Microsoft, and the rationales for keeping the web's client-side 
| programming language small while the proprietary platforms rapidly evolve 
| support for large languages, does not help maintain the fiction that only 
| clashing high-level philosophies are involved here."       
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http://www.computerworld.com.au/index.php/id;554904782;fp;2;fpid;1


ECIS Accuses Microsoft of Plotting HTML Hijack

,----[ Quote ]
| An industry coalition that has represented competitors of Microsoft
| in European markets before the European Commission stepped up its
| public relations offensive this morning, this time accusing
| Microsoft of scheming to upset HTML's place in the fabric of
| the Internet with XAML, an XML-based layout lexicon forn
| etwork applications.
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http://www.betanews.com/article/ECIS_Accuses_Microsoft_of_Plotting_HTML_Hijack/1169824569


Microsoft: Be afraid, be very afraid

,----[ Quote ]
| Here's a scary thought: Microsoft can take over your computer wherever you 
| are, and do whatever it wants to.  
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http://www.computerworld.com.au/index.php/id;710755567;fp;4194304;fpid;1


Silverlight is about The Microsoft Web.

,----[ Quote ]
| Sorry, but I have to say something very rude. You clearly don't know
| what you're talking about. That is Microsoft PR talking. Can you say
| "credibility loss".
| 
| Silverlight is about The Microsoft Web
| 
| Silverlight is not about the World Wide Web. It's about The Microsoft
| Web. It's about getting fools to rally around Microsoft. After all of
| this time and experience with Microsoft, anybody with half a brain
| will be smart enough to avoid doing that. The last thing you want to
| be is dependent on Microsoft and set yourself up to be a DIRECT
| competitor with "Microsoft Cloud Services" down the road. Dumb.
| Foolish. Stupid. Smart investors won't invest one dime in your
| company and might even short your stock.
| 
| Remember, it's Microsoft's cloud. Microsoft is not investing in
| huge datacenters all around the world for no reason. And, Microsoft
| will do whatever it takes, including operating that new online
| services business at a huge loss, to starve off any smaller
| competitor that foolishly chose to develop on the Silverlight
| platform. Microsoft sold $44 BILLION and cleared $18 BILLION
| profit last year. How many billions did you make last year?
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http://talkback.zdnet.com/5208-11406-0.html?forumID=1&threadID=33334&messageID=613757


Microsoft's 'Everywhere' excludes Linux

,----[ Quote ]
| This browser add-on enables rendering of WPF content, but
| "Everywhere" doesn't include Linux.
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http://www.itwire.com.au/content/view/7794/53/


Is Microsoft learning from Web standards mistakes?

,----[ Quote ]
| In a video interview with ZDNet Australia last month, Microsoft blogger and 
| group manager of technical community, Frank Arrigo, explained how important 
| it is for the Redmond giant to follow Web standards.  
| 
| "Standards are important," said Arrigo, who admitted that Microsoft had been 
|                                             ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
| guilty of ignoring them in the past. "If you look at IE6, we didn't quite 
| ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
| follow all the standards but standards are important ... IE7 as an example is 
| trying to address that."   
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http://www.zdnet.com.au/news/software/soa/Is-Microsoft-learning-from-Web-standards-mistakes-/0,130061733,339280240,00.htm


,----[ Quote ]
| From:       Bill Gates
| Sent:       Saturday, December 05, 1998 9:44 AM
| To:         Bob Muglia (Exchange); Jon DeVaan; Steven Sinofsky
| Cc:         Paul Mariz
| Subject:    Office rendering
| 
| One thing we have got to change is our strategy -- allowing Office 
| documents to be rendered very well by OTHER PEOPLES BROWSERS is one of the 
| most destructive things we could do to the company.
| 
| We have to stop putting any effort into this and make sure that Office
| documents very well depends on PROPRIETARY IE capabilities.
| 
| Anything else is suicide for our platform. This is a case where Office has
| to  to destroy Windows.
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http://antitrust.slated.org/www.iowaconsumercase.org/011607/2000/PX02991.pdf


Software rivals say Microsoft's Vista illegal in Europe (at CNNMoney.com)

,----[ Excerpt ]
| Software manufacturers, citing 2004 European Commission finding,
| contend the operating system violates server laws in Europe.
|
| [...]
|
| "Vista is the first step of Microsoft's strategy to extend its market 
| dominance to the Internet," the ECIS statement said.
|
| It said Microsoft's XAML markup language was "positioned to replace HTML," 
| the industry standard for publishing documents on the Internet.
| 
| Microsoft's own language would be dependent on Windows, and discriminatory 
| against rival systems such as Linux, the group says.
|
| They said a so-called "open XML" platform file format, known as OOXML, is 
| designed to run seamlessly only on the Microsoft Office platform.
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http://money.cnn.com/2007/01/26/news/international/bc.vista.microsoft.eu.reut/index.htm?source=yahoo_quote

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