Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> espoused:
> All sides of the debate?
>
> ,----[ Quote ]
>| How many sides are there in the OOXML debate? What if all sides are Microsoft
>| and Microsoft business partners?
>|
>| [...]
>|
>| Dough Mahugh (Microsoft) :
>|
>| Next week's XML 2007 conference in Boston features speakers from all
>| sides of the document format debate, including a document interop session
>| with Miguel de Icaza (Novell) and Vijay Rajagopalan (Microsoft) that I
>| expect will offer a lively discussion around Open XML, ODF, and XML-based
>| interoperability in general.
> `----
>
> http://www.noooxml.org/forum/t-29108/all-sides-of-the-debate
>
> Microsoft uses de Icaza to get it's way. Even RMS has become aware of the
> issue:
>
> ,----[ Quote ]
>| - -------- Original Message --------
>| Subject: GNOME dependent on Mono
>| Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 20:03:38 -0500
>| From: Richard Stallman <rms@xxxxxxx>
>| Reply-To: rms@xxxxxxx
>| To: foundation-list@xxxxxxxxx
>|
>| I read http://boycottnovell.com/2007/11/05/gnome-mono-yelp/ with
>| great concern.
>|
>| Since I am not an expert, I cannot tell on my own if that description
>| of the situation is accurate. If part of it is not accurate, I hope
>| someone will explain. However, if it is accurate, GNOME has a serious
>| problem.
>|
>| I have always supported the development of free platforms for C#, just
>| as I've supported the development of free platforms for any language
>| that users use. I also wouldn't argue that people should not use C#
>| with a free platform for secondary applications.
>|
>| However, making GNOME depend on Mono is running a grave risk, and a
>| grave mistake. If the article accurately describes the situation, I
>| think we need to launch a high-priority project to reimplement Yelp in
>| some other language.
>|
>| The use of code from Firefox in a way that might cause trademark
>| problems is also a serious issue. The solution might not be difficult
>| - -- it may be enough to remove the trademark in the sources used by
>| GNOME wherever that is necessary -- but the solution does need to be
>| carried out.
>|
>| The nontechnical impact of these issues vastly exceeds the technical
>| impact, so considering them only in technical terms is fundamentally
>| misguided. In this sort of decision, the Foundation should intervene
>| and decide based on the nontechnical issues at stake. If those who
>| work for Novell tell us not to worry, we should not listen to them.
> `----
Interesting... now, who was saying that Cola didn't matter?
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