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Re: Russian schools won't buy commercial software ..

  • Subject: Re: Russian schools won't buy commercial software ..
  • From: The Ghost In The Machine <ewill@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 15:16:40 -0800
  • Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy
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In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Roy Schestowitz
<newsgroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
 wrote
on Thu, 15 Feb 2007 17:07:58 +0000
<2626039.9VGbhmjqYk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
> __/ [ William Poaster ] on Thursday 15 February 2007 15:05 \__
>
>> On Thu, 08 Feb 2007 21:10:39 +0000, Mark Kent wrote:
>> 
>>> Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> espoused:
>>>> __/ [ Mark Kent ] on Thursday 08 February 2007 17:52 \__
>>>> 
>>>>> Doug Mentohl <doug_mentohl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> espoused:
>>>>>> "Schools in the Perm region will soon quit buying software from
>>>>>> commercial companies"
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> "According to Karpushin, schools would start using freely distributed
>>>>>> software like the Linux OS, Russky office and Open office desktop
>>>>>> apps"
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> http://www.mosnews.com/news/2007/02/07/linuxschool.shtml
>>>>> 
>>>>> The bandwagon is getting awfully big.
>>>>  
>>>> In reference to the "Perm region"?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> I was thinking just how many locations around the planet are looking at
>>> open-source, looking at Vista, doing a quick calculation, and then
>>> declaring for open-source.
>> 
>> I saw this in another (UK) newsgroup:-
>> "We're on the Microsoft Schools' Agreement, and the licence _clearly_
>> states that if the PC doesn't already have Windows on it, our licences are
>> invalid.
>> They make an exception for MacOS 9 and upwards (presumably so I can put
>> Windows XP on an Intel Mac).
>> 
>> "But ANY other operating system, or none[1], and although I _can_ install
>> it (as in: the VLK works on a fresh install) I'm doing so against the
>> terms of the contract between ourselves and Microsoft. The upshot is, on
>> the Schools' Agreement at least, use a VLK on a new build with no prior
>> OS[2] and you're unlicensed."
>> 
>> 
>> [1] "".....any other operating system, or none.."
>> [2] "..no prior OS"
>> These would seem to mean that if there was no prior ~Windows~ OS, the VLK
>> is invalid.
>> 
>> In *other* words, the school would have had to originally buy PCs with
>> ONLY M$ Windoze on, to use the VLK. If they'd bought some used machines
>> with "any other OS (ie linux), or a barebones machine, or a
>> self-constructed machine & installed Windoze with teh VLK, it would be
>> null & void.
>> 
>> So to ensure that the school ONLY bought PCs with windoze pre-installed,
>> M$ wrote the VLK in such a way as to ensure that would happen & *lock*
>> them in.
>> 
>> I find that rather iniquitous.
>> 
>> It would appear to me that the M$ VLK *deliberately* deters schools away
>> from buying machines with any other OS. I've no doubt this happens in
>> schools all over the world.
>
>
> Microsoft's secret of 'success': exclusionary contracts, threats,
> kickbacks...

One cannot deny their success, however -- which is probably one reason
why they're also illegal. :-)

>
> Microsoft Shuts Down Linux 10 Years Ago Says Iowa Attorne
>
> ,----[ Quote ]
> | Going back now to as early as 1998, Microsoft starts to realize that
> | Linux might pose a possible threat, and Vinod Valloppillil, who is
> | a program manager at Microsoft, is asked by Mr. Allchin, Jim Allchin,
> | to analyze potential strategies for combatting open-source software,
> | and specifically Linux.
> | His memos are leaked to the press in April -- I beg your pardon --
> | in October of 1998 and become known as the Halloween documents.
> | And the evidence will be that Microsoft uses its influence in the
> | OEM channel, the computer manufacture channel, to make sure that
> | end users have a difficult time buying PCs with Linux preinstalled.
> `----
>
> http://www.linuxelectrons.com/News/RoundUp/Microsoft_Shuts_Down_Linux_10_Years_Ago_Says_Iowa_Attorney
> b
>

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