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Re: It's funny...

  • Subject: Re: It's funny...
  • From: Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 17:30:20 +0000
  • Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy
  • Organization: schestowitz.com / Netscape
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__/ [ Ericew ] on Wednesday 17 January 2007 16:36 \__

> wjbell wrote:
>> Face it, Linux is modeling itself after Windows because they're good
>> design and usability ideas. (aside from the sentence above)  Too bad
>> they're doing the same thing they accuse Microsoft of doing to get there.
> 
> Don't you mean Linux is modeling itself after Apple, Xerox, IBM, minix?
>  Oh that's right... you can't accept that all the "good shit" MS has
> given you over the years has been pilfered from Apple, Xerox, IBM, and
> anyone else dumb enough to let MS look at their products.

Of course. Better yet, why not create cars with triagular wheels? As opposed
to try to accept the GNOME menu created by Microvell?

Surely, whenever you use OpenOffice, uninformed people will say that it
imitates Microsoft Office. Or argue that KDE mimics Windows... never mind
whose work Microsoft nicked...

People naturally think of the most widespread applications as the source of
all intellect and innovation...

The Redmond Copying Machine?

,----[ Quote ]
| My recent video, which tweaked Microsoft for crowing about its
| "innovation" in Windows Vista (without acknowledging its huge debt
| to Mac OS X), triggered plenty of reaction. It probably comes as no
| surprise that your comments quickly devolved into "which is better"
| bickering, which will proably never end.
| 
| [...]
| 
| Then this e-mail message, which arrived today from a guy who says
| he worked as a Microsoft temp employee from 2003 to 2004. I've
| agreed not to publish his name.
| 
| [...]
| 
| "Around the corner was another grid, showing the RealPlayer
| application. This grid was the same: grid A1 was the front userv
| iew of the application, mirroring what was on the iTunes wall/grid.
| 
| "Around the next corner was another grid, this one showing Windows
| Media Player version 9 !! This one was missing a few tiles in the
| grid, but you could actually see the progress as each feature [of
| iTunes and RealPlayer] was copied, square for square.
| 
| "Amazing. New software is put out, a manager sees it and decides that the 
| creative part of their day is making color screen captures of the
| software and presenting it to the copying--er, engineering team."
`----

http://pogue.blogs.nytimes.com/2006/12/18/the-redmond-copying-machine/


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDNuq94Zg_8 


All the Myth about Microsoft!

,----[ Quote ]
|     * Microsoft was first with graphical user interface
| 
|     * Microsoft designed BASIC Language
| 
|     * Microsoft designed visual basic
| 
|     * Microsoft invented DOS
| 
|     * Microsoft designed the first spreadsheet - Excel
|       
|     * Microsoft designed the first word processor
| 
|     * First with Internet browser
`----

http://196.2.70.231:8080/ict_blog/open-ict-hacks/microsoft-myth


Do Windows users have an "undisclosed balance-sheet liability" too?

,----[ Quote ]
| Who can tell what infringes what any more? Also, I wonder if we should
| even care. Patents were originally created to protect the little guy
| who invents a gizmo, tries to sell it, but sees another company come
| along, copy the gizmo, and make all the money selling their version.
| But today's application of patents to software is completely warped
| and twisted from that noble idea of fairness and reward for hard
| work... Countries that see what we're doing and avoid it will be
| at a competitive advantage. While we sit around gazing at our
| navels, they will be free to let developers develop, collaborate,
| and innovate in peace...
`----

http://blogs.zdnet.com/Burnette/?p=216


NT influenced by Unix

,----[ Quote ]
| (Gates:) "And through Windows NT, you can see it throughout the design.
| In a weak sense, it is a form of Unix. There are so many of the
| design decisions that have been influenced by that environment. And
| that's no accident."
| 
| In light of the recent saber rattling about Linux and patents, the "There 
| are so many of the design decisions that have been influenced by that 
| environment" sentence is particularly interesting if these patent
| threats include things that are prior Unix art. "In a weak sense, it
| is a form of Unix" is also telling. I said before that I don't think
| that's the case; I think the patent stuff is talking about things like
| Samba and Mono, but even there the "influenced by that environment"
| could be important in the court of public opinion if not in actual
| law.
`----

http://aplawrence.com/Unixart/gates_quote.html


Microsoft's stolen code and IP infringements

,----[ Quote ]
| Soon, MS-DOS 6.0 was released, including the Microsoft DoubleSpace
| disk compression utility program. Stac successfully sued Microsoft
| for patent infringement regarding the compression algorithm
| used in DoubleSpace...
| 
| F. Scott Deaver, owner of Failsafe Designs, says Microsoft is guilty of
| the "outright theft" of his product name and intellectual property
| (IP)...
| 
| Alacritech sued Microsoft in Federal District Court on August 11,
| 2004, alleging that Microsoft's existing and future operating
| systems containing the "Chimney" TCP offload architecture uses
| Alacritech's proprietary SLIC Technology architecture...
| 
| In April 2001, Intertrust initiated a lawsuit against Microsoft. The
| lawsuit ultimately accused Microsoft of infringing 11 of Intertrust's
| patents and almost 130 of the company's patent claims...
| 
| Visto Corporation has filed a legal action against Microsoft for
| misappropriating Visto's intellectual property... "Microsoft has a
| long and well-documented history of acquiring the technology of
| others, branding it as their own, and entering new markets," said
| Mr. Bogosian...
| 
| Telecoms company AT&T accused Microsoft of infringing its patent for
| a digital speech coder in its Window software in a lawsuit it filed
| in 2000...
| 
| The likelihood of Microsoft having to pay millions of dollars in
| damages for infringing the contested Eolas patent for web browser
| technology increased last week when the US Patent and Trademark
| Office reaffirmed the patent's validity...
| 
| A bitter fight has broken out between Symantec and Microsoft.
| Symantec claims that Microsoft stole code from Veritas software...
`----

http://www.openaddict.com/e107_plugins/forum/forum_viewtopic.php?1385


Is Microsoft infringing upon Xerox, Apple and Unix intellectual property?

,----[ Quote ]
| Intellectual Property is a term widely abused in the software industry
| by firms such as Microsoft and SCO using it to scare people into not
| using certain products in favor of their own. This disparaging tactic
| has even been given a name: Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt (FUD). It seemst
| hat anyone nowadays can make bold, unsubstantiated claims of IP
| infringement without actually having any proof simply to hurt another
| products reputation and destroy healthy competition. In this article,
| we will explore what intellectual property is and why every computeru
| ser should care when unreputable companies abuse legal systems in
| order to gain an unfair business advantage.
`----

http://www.openaddict.com/page.php?27


The Apple vs. Microsoft GUI Lawsuit

,----[ Quote ]
| Without warning, Apple filed suit against Microsoft in federal court on
| March 17, 1988 for violating Apple's copyrights on the "visual displays"
| of the Macintosh. (Apple also filed suit against HP for its NewWave
| environment that ran on top of Windows 2.0.)
| 
| Apple's suit included 189 contested visual displays that Apple
| believed violated its copyright.
| 
| Microsoft countersued, but it failed to stem the bad publicity.
| Windows' development community was terrified that any court ordered
| changes to the software would render their products incompatiblea
| nd make Windows undesirable to consumers. Borland's CEO said itw
| as like "waking up and finding out that your partner might have
| AIDS."
`----

http://lowendmac.com/orchard/06/0825.html


Windows Vista vs. Mac OS X: The Copycat Olympics

,----[ Quote ]
| In Microsoft's defense, though, why wouldn't you want to "borrow" ideas
| from other successful products? Vista, Leopard, and Linux are all
| competing against each other, although in reality, each one is better for
| a different set of users. Apple may go on and on about the similarities
| between Tiger and Vista, but they're there for a reason. When
| innovation fails, then you need to try and learn from the best, and
| that's what Microsoft is doing. However, they're a little late to the
| game, and the competing follow-up usually isn't as good as the original.
`---- 

http://www.osweekly.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2300&Itemid=449



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