Open Addict: Internet Explorer blocked
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| I've blocked Internet Explorer from viewing our front page and will implement
| that code on the rest of our site as we roll out the new format.
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http://www.openaddict.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=5512
Ouch. I know Richard. He's not a zealot at all. He is just tried of a company
that deliberately corrupted and ignored standards.
HTML 5 Gets the go-ahead:
http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/
HTML 5 : We don't need no XHTML
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| This is progress, because it's based more on reality than on the usual spacy
| navel-gazing that defines our standards. Netscape was the dominant browser,
| then it fell behind, and Microsoft IE took over and "ad hoc" implemented what
| it could and what corporate politics allowed.
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http://www.webforefront.com/archives/2007/07/html_5.html#more
Related:
Carrying Water for Microsoft
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| Careless Web developers work tirelessly to maintain Redmond's dominance.
|
| [...]
|
| Fidelity's contractor didn't set out to build a website that would shut
| out Macintosh and Linux users. But by being lax with its choice of
| Web authoring technologies, that's exactly what it did.
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http://www.technologyreview.com/blog/posts.aspx?id=17504&author=garfinkel
Funny Thing - M$
,----[ Quote ]
| Last night Joe and I got in this huge discussion, and I was cursing out
| Microsoft. It’s been rough the past couple of days and M$ has not been making
| my life very easy. Every time I turn around I have to ghetto-fy my web sites
| to make them work in IE…
|
| See… There are these things called Web Standards which were put into place to
| make web designer’s lives easier. As in, if they script to web standards,
| then all standards compliant browsers will show the site exactly correct.
| Well, I always script to web standards. The PROBLEM is that Microsoft decides
| that they are just going to do things THEIR way...
|
| [...]
|
| Besides the fact that all of the Microsoft employees I have ever encountered
| must have been brainwashed. I don’t know where they dig these people up.
|
| [...]
|
| And if they AREN’T brainwashing them, then they are just hiring incompetant,
| pompous dumbasses. And if either is the case, why should anyone support their
| company?
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http://www.camp-site.org/blog/?p=21
Why Microsoft Expression Web redefines irony
,----[ Quote ]
| Expression is Microsoft's suite of web development tools slated to
| replace the wonderful application known as Front Page. A quick visit
| to the site for this tool yields a fairly typical Microsoft webpage.
|
| [...]
|
| WHOA! Did they not even listen to their own marketing garbage? 144
| Errors! No DocType? Are you kidding me?
|
| [...]
|
| Bravo to our good friends at Microsoft for setting such a great example
| and leading the masses to a more standards compliant internet! (and
| for giving web standards geeks something to hate on).
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http://shifteleven.com/articles/2006/11/16/why-microsoft-expression-web-redefines-irony
Is Microsoft learning from Web standards mistakes?
,----[ Quote ]
| In a video interview with ZDNet Australia last month, Microsoft blogger and
| group manager of technical community, Frank Arrigo, explained how important
| it is for the Redmond giant to follow Web standards.
|
| "Standards are important," said Arrigo, who admitted that Microsoft had been
| guilty of ignoring them in the past. "If you look at IE6, we didn't quite
| follow all the standards but standards are important ... IE7 as an example is
| trying to address that."
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http://www.zdnet.com.au/news/software/soa/Is-Microsoft-learning-from-Web-standards-mistakes-/0,130061733,339280240,00.htm
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/cc1ad063dcc0400d
,----[ Quote ]
| Wow, this is absolutely devastating! As near as I can tell, the poor
| guy at Microsoft has been trying to support open standards against
| management. He doesn't say much about the history, i.e. the fact that
| Microsoft didn't do anything with IE until they were recently forced to
| by Firefox competition. The feedback is amazing. Example:
|
| Quote:
| -------------
| So if you believe that the reason for IE's lack of standards support is
| something other than malice of forethought to strangle other browsers,
| you are wrong. If you have followed the anti-trust trial you would have
| seen the actual evidence for these decisions. Microsoft is an
| anti-competitive company run by unethical shitheads.
|
| This won't change until the workforce is slashed and the entire company
| culture changes. Steve Ballmer is the king of the shitheads, so when he
| goes things might get better. But until then, expect MS to only do the
| absolute minimum to defuse the worst criticism. Remember my words:
| unethical shitheads.
| -------------
| End quote
|
| Erik cited this same guy's blog a few days ago to support the notion
| that Microsoft is dedicated to standards compliance and is doing the
| reasonable thing (I think that's why he cited it). The way this story
| has developed, it shows exactly the opposite, and is very revealing
| about sentiments out there in the developer world.
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Who Questions Bill Gates' Commitment to Web Standards?
,----[ Quote ]
| (Gates:) "...we contributed more Web standards than anyone! We have our
| smartest people who go and work on that stuff . . . we just did the
| OpenOffice . . . our office XML formats we contributed to them . . . we've
| got XML at the core of all our products."
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http://www.molly.com/2006/12/14/who-questions-bill-gates-commitment-to-web-standards/
Microsoft does not want us to use IE
,----[ Quote ]
| Why else would the company release a new version of the browser with so
| many glaring and obvious incompatibilities with other browsers? Why else
| make it virtually impossible to visit any web site, without running
| against multiple warnings and blocks? Why else make it so difficult tot
| est existing and new versions of the browser, that you have to run a
| completely new OS image?
|
| Microsoft management must want people off of IE.
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http://burningbird.net/technology/trends/microsoft-does-not-want-us-to-use-ie/
Vista and British Library put da Vinci online
,----[ Quote ]
| The British Library has created an updated version of its application
| called "Turning the Pages" which allows people to browse parts of
| its 150 million piece collection via a web browser. We heard how
| this works better using Vista.
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http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/01/30/vinci_notebooks_vista/
Former WaSP Interoperability Advocate Hired by Microsoft
,----[ Quote ]
| The lady who in September 2005 called Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer's
| claim in a BusinessWeek article that his company would eventually
| "win the Web" "deplorable in the light of what the Web means to the
| world, to users, to designers and developers and to put it into
| Microsoft parlance, customers," now finds herself working for him.
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http://www.betanews.com/article/Former_WaSP_Interoperability_Advocate_Hired_by_Microsoft/1170263944
Perspective: Microsoft's amusing standards stance
,----[ Quote ]
| One fun thing to do in Web browsers is to check how well documents
| conform to standards. For example, you can pass the URL of
| Microsoft's letter to W3C's validator. Doing so reveals that
| the letter is not written according to the HTML specification.
| The validator finds 33 errors in the most lenient mode. (One of
| the errors is the use of the "layer" element. (The "layer" element?!)
|
| Microsoft--please--if you think standards are so important,
| why not start using them?
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http://news.com.com/2010-1013_3-6161285.html?part=rss&tag=2547-1_3-0-20&subj=news
ECIS Accuses Microsoft of Plotting HTML Hijack
,----[ Quote ]
| An industry coalition that has represented competitors of Microsoft
| in European markets before the European Commission stepped up its
| public relations offensive this morning, this time accusing
| Microsoft of scheming to upset HTML's place in the fabric of
| the Internet with XAML, an XML-based layout lexicon forn
| etwork applications.
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http://www.betanews.com/article/ECIS_Accuses_Microsoft_of_Plotting_HTML_Hijack/1169824569
Software rivals say Microsoft's Vista illegal in Europe (at CNNMoney.com)
,----[ Excerpt ]
| Software manufacturers, citing 2004 European Commission finding,
| contend the operating system violates server laws in Europe.
|
| [...]
|
| "Vista is the first step of Microsoft's strategy to extend its market
| dominance to the Internet," the ECIS statement said.
|
| It said Microsoft's XAML markup language was "positioned to replace HTML,"
| the industry standard for publishing documents on the Internet.
|
| Microsoft's own language would be dependent on Windows, and discriminatory
| against rival systems such as Linux, the group says.
|
| They said a so-called "open XML" platform file format, known as OOXML, is
| designed to run seamlessly only on the Microsoft Office platform.
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http://money.cnn.com/2007/01/26/news/international/bc.vista.microsoft.eu.reut/index.htm?source=yahoo_quote
,----[ Quote ]
| From: Bill Gates
| Sent: Saturday, December 05, 1998 9:44 AM
| To: Bob Muglia (Exchange); Jon DeVaan; Steven Sinofsky
| Cc: Paul Mariz
| Subject: Office rendering
|
| One thing we have got to change is our strategy -- allowing Office
| documents to be rendered very well by OTHER PEOPLES BROWSERS is one of the
| most destructive things we could do to the company.
|
| We have to stop putting any effort into this and make sure that Office
| documents very well depends on PROPRIETARY IE capabilities.
|
| Anything else is suicide for our platform. This is a case where Office has
| to to destroy Windows.
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http://antitrust.slated.org/www.iowaconsumercase.org/011607/2000/PX02991.pdf
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