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Re: [News] [OSS] Malaysia Wants a Single Document Standard (ODF), Home of IBM to Decide As Well

Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> espoused:
> Do we need two ISO standards for document format? - Part 4
> 
> ,----[ Quote ]
>| Mr. Alan Bryden said that ISO will not approve two standards in the same 
>| area and ISO has its own "consensus" process to ensure that. Into 
>| this consensus process, Malaysia should give input that ODF is 
>| the single standard Malaysia needs and the single standard ISO needs.
> `----
> 
> http://www.openmalaysiablog.com/2007/06/do_we_need_two_.html

The idea of standardising on something proprietary is so absurd it's
hard to work out where to start and stop on it.

> 
> Can New York make the case for ODF?
> 
> ,----[ Quote ]
>| The New York state politician backing a bill that would order the 
>| state to examine a switch to open document formats for official 
>| business said Friday that she is optimistic her bill will escape 
>| the fate of similar bills in five other states.
> `----
> 
> http://www.linuxworld.com/news/2007/061107-can-new-york-make-the.html?fsrc=rss-linux-news
> http://tinyurl.com/26ns4j

I can't see it being successful in the US, the system there is far too
corrupt.  

> 
> 
> Related:
> 
> Malaysia suspends ODF approval process
> 
> ,----[ Quote ]
>| According to an article originally published earlier this week in
>| the International Herald Tribune, a close observer to the Malaysian
>| approval process said Sirim would actually prefer a merger between
>| Open XML and ODF to create a single standard rather than two
>| competing ones.
> `----
> 
> http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9015902&intsrc=hm_list
> http://tinyurl.com/3xp8tj
> 
> 
> Packing The Court At The ISO?
> 
> ,----[ Quote ]
>|      ...P member countries ('participating member' countries) sending 
>|     representatives, and I am interested to note the majority of
>|     their representatives are, as individuals, also Microsoft employees.
>| 
>| [...]
>| 
>| How can they not see that OOXML (ECMA 376) is unwanted by anyone outside of 
>| Microsoft? How about it Brian Jones? Are you really so desperate that you
>| have to resort to that?
> `----
> 
> http://lnxwalt.wordpress.com/2007/03/23/packing-the-court-at-the-iso/
> 
> 
> Q&A: Former Mass. CIO feels 'bittersweet pride' after battles with Microsoft,
> legislature
> 
> ,----[ Quote ]
>| As CIO of Massachusetts from February to November last year, Louis 
>| Gutierrez had to endure most of the brunt of Microsoft Corp.'s political 
>| wrath over a state policy calling for the adoption of the Open Document 
>| Format for Office Applications, or ODF -- a rival to the software vendor's 
>| Office Open XML file format.
> `----
> 
> http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9012760&source=rss_news50
> 
> 
> ,----[ Quote ]
>|    Quinn:  Almost to a person, to anybody involved or who knows about
>|    the ODF issue, they attributed the story to Microsoft, right, wrong
>|    or otherwise. Senator Pacheco may be a bully but I do not believe he
>|    is disingenious and would stoop to such a tactic. Senator Pacheco and
>|    Secretary Galvin's office remain very heavily influenced by the
>|    Microsoft money and its lobbyist machine, as witnessed by their
>|    playbook and words, in my opinion.
> `----
> 
> http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20060119232859729
> 
> 
> MA Governor-Elect Names MS Anti-ODF Lobbyist to Technology Advisory Group
> 
> http://www.consortiuminfo.org/standardsblog/article.php?story=20061128161343183
> 
> 
> [OOXML] Math markup marked down
> 
> ,----[ Quote ]
>| It appears that Science, the journal of the America Association for the 
>| Advancement of Science (AAAS), itself the largest scientific society in the 
>| world, has updated its authoring guidelines to include advice for Office 
>| 2007 users. The news is not good.
>| 
>| [...]
>| 
>| Uh oh. Not only cannot you not submit files in OOXML format, but 
>| you can't even use Office 2007 and save in the old binary formats. 
>| The choice to invent a new "Open Math Markup Language" rather 
>| then use the well-established existing standard, MathML, appears 
>| to be a serious flaw.
> `----
> 
> http://www.robweir.com/blog/2007/04/math-markup-marked-down.html
> 
> 
> In case you were wondering how big 6000 pages is: OpenXML/OOXML/whatever
> 
> ,----[ Quote ]
>| Take a look at this photo from an OOXML workshop. (Read the blog entry
>| too.) [Photo of a pile of 6,000+ pages]
>| 
>| I don't know what your job is, but imagine your boss came to you and
>| said "read this, fully understand it, implement it perfectly, and make
>| sure that it fully interoperates with the software being produced by
>| anyone else doing the same." Translate this statement to your own job
>| and stare again at that photo. What do you conclude?
>| 
>|     * You'll have lifetime employment trying to implement the spec.
>|     * Your boss comes from another wacko parallel universe.
>|     * This is a joke if not a travesty.
>|     * Your job evaluation will not be very good next year.
>|     * There is no way you can fully do the job without
>|       reimplementing significant portions of Microsoft's product
>|       portfolio and therefore you will run into intellectual
>|       property problems. (Don?t think that's a problem?)
>|     * Microsoft is trying to change the rules on what is a standard
>|       and who can implement it.
> `----
> 
> http://www.sutor.com/newsite/blog-open/?p=1634


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