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> On Mar 20, 10:45 pm, Roy Schestowitz <newsgro...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>> __/ [ cc ] on Tuesday 20 March 2007 22:44 \__
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>> > On Mar 20, 11:57 am, Roy Schestowitz <newsgro...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > wrote:
>> >> __/ [ cc ] on Tuesday 20 March 2007 10:45 \__
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>> >> > On Mar 20, 4:32 am, Roy Schestowitz <newsgro...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >> __/ [ John A. Bailo ] on Tuesday 20 March 2007 06:12 \__
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>> >> >> > Roy Schestowitz wrote:
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>> >> >> >> Perens blasts Microsoft/Novell "protection racket"
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>> >> >> >> | More than that, though, Perens said, if the Novell-Microsoft
>> >> >> >> | patent deal is allowed to stand. It would take only as few as
>> >> >> >> | "two or three intellectual property law-suits" of open-source
>> >> >> >> | developers or small business at a cost of at least $5 million
>> >> >> >> | dollars a pop, to destroy open-source development.
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>> >> >> > Good. Then those guys can get a payoff and maybe buy some new
>> >> >> > clothes.
>>
>> >> >> Johh, shut up, okay? It's not even funny.
>>
>> >> > So Novell has a chance to spread Linux far and wide, and the Linux
>> >> > community is up in arms over it. Figures.
>>
>> >> That's then type of thing Novell would have you believe. The amount of
>> >> damange it has done (and will continue to do) by far outweights the
>> >> value of these coupons, which Microsoft uses to create unfounded fear.
>>
>> > Where's the proof of this damage? You see Microsoft together with
>> > Linux and assume nothing good can come of it? Microsoft helped bail
>> > out Apple remember, and look where they are today. Not that they
>> > weren't helping themselves as well, but still.
>>
>> *LMOA*
>>
>> Bail out? Eliminating competing software suites? Technical sabotage and
>> illegal acts to pull the plug on Netscape? They choked Apple using crime.
>> How does guilt fit into this? Could Microsoft have seen the danger of
>> excessive backlash? Microsoft is more powerful than governments because
>> it's inclined to comply with no law and it is susciptible and subjected to
>> no regulation. Whenever it violates a law, it just bribes the right
>> people. And it has got the connections, all around the world (proxies,
>> lobbyists, pressure groups, and business partners).
>
> Do you have proof that they choked Apple using crime, or are you just
> spitting it out because it sounds nice? Sure Microsoft almost put
> Apple out of business, but Apple made a comeback(in part) because of
> Microsoft as well. The rest of that is just Rex Ballard paranoia talk.
Example:
Macs have Netscape. I know this because I used a Mac for over a year, but
Netscape just wouldn't play nice in today's Web. Why? Because Microsoft
hijacked the Web, elbowed Netscape, and added proprietary component to Web
sites. So, without IE, how can a Mac user even access the Web?
>> Don't pretend that Microsoft plays nice. It just spins the world any way
>> it desires. Allowing corporate power to reach the stage where even Novell
>> needs to sell Linux through Microsoft -- with Microsoft's 'permission' --
>> pretty much tells you the story, doesn't it? Everyone has a price.
>> Microsoft vacuums money by forcing people to use its products (no choice
>> available) and then using that money to continue the cycle of abuse.
>>
>
> I'm not pretending Microsoft plays nice. I'm not saying that the
> Novell deal was out of the kindness of their heart. They obviously
> expect to get something out of it too. But so far nothing bad has come
> of the Novell deal.
Microsoft's CEO has already stated that the deal was about IP. That was last
month.
> You're speculating about events that will probably
> never happen.
They already happened. Microsoft threatened vendors. There's also extortion,
namely request for 'protection money' from large Linux users.
> You see the word Microsoft and instantly form your crazy
> conspiracy theories about how they are trying to eliminate everything
> and take over the world. Once upon a time the US went into Iraq
> because it saw a connection to Al Qaeda and assumed that there must be
> WMDs. How did that work out?
No, that's self interest of American tycoons. It was possibly a ploy. No
speculation, but that's open to debate. Let's not discuss politics though.
:-)
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