__/ [ The Ghost In The Machine ] on Friday 04 May 2007 15:59 \__
> In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Mark Kent
> <mark.kent@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote
> on Fri, 4 May 2007 14:55:52 +0100
> <8kqrg4-rg7.ln1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
>> The Ghost In The Machine <ewill@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> espoused:
>>> In comp.os.linux.advocacy, amicus_curious
>>><ACDC@xxxxxxx>
>>> wrote
>>> on Thu, 3 May 2007 15:05:59 -0400
>>><463a329b$0$20095$ec3e2dad@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
>>>>
>>>> "The Ghost In The Machine" <ewill@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
>>>> message news:f08pg4-435.ln1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>
>>>>> Just remember what they did with CIFS/SMB and Samba. :-)
>>>>>
>>>> I don't recall them doing anything to Samba. It still works on my
>>>> machines. Are you having a problem?
>>>>
>>>
>>> It has since been repaired, but how do we know they won't
>>> break it again?
>>>
>>> http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=15850
>>>
>>> http://lists.samba.org/archive/samba-technical/2004-May/035632.html
>>>
>>> http://www.rmschneider.com/writing/xp_and_samba.html
>>>
>>> It is not clear that Microsoft deliberately intended to
>>> break Samba, but one does have to wonder.
>>
>> Yes it is... Roy posted some material some time ago where Microsoft
>> employees were told to "f*ck with samba".
>
> It ain't done until Samba won't run. Can't be too careful
> with Al Qaeda running amount, it might lead to dancing.
> Oh, wait, wrong newsgroup.
>
> (Side issue:
> http://slashdot.org/articles/05/08/02/2219208.shtml
> suggests that the "DOS ain't done till Lotus won't run" is
> a bit of a myth, though it's hard for me to say which way
> -- and DOS stands for "Dumb, Ossified, and Stupid" anyway
> by now, though FreeDOS at least allows it to be dumb,
> ossified, stupid, and freely available with source code.)
>
> Once a monopolist...
>
>>
>>>
>>> That is the danger of using unstandardized proprietary
>>> protocols. To be sure, Microsoft also has to balance
>>> their breakage with their own support; if they update the
>>> protocol to break Samba, they might break their own tools
>>> as well.
>>>
>>
>> That's why it's not been all that easy for them to break samba. Had
>> they been really cute and designed their OS in a modular way, then they
>> could quite possibly have just forced upgrades on people in the same way
>> as they do with their applications, however, they have not been able to
>> do so. Possibly they also prefer to encourage people to replace a whole
>> os?
>>
>
> Every 3 years.
Here's the missing reference, FWIW:
FLOSS Weekly 14: Jeremy Allison of Samba
,----[ Quote ]
| Vista is to ship with a new version of SMB, called SMB2. At
| minute 40 in this FLOSS Weekly podcast, Jeremy Allison of
| Samba talks of behavior that will flood the network with
| 1500 packets just to do a network file delete. This will
| turn Vista computers into a DOS (Denial of Service) attack
| upon Samba based computers on the network.
`----
,----[ Quote ]
| 'In the section of the interview from around 33m30s to 39m00 Jeremy
| Allison reports how he was told that the Microsoft team implementing
| SMB2 were ordered to "f**k with Samba".'
`----
http://www.twit.tv/floww14
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