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Re: [News] [OSS] Patents Destroy Everything, But Some Brits Want Them

Roy Schestowitz wrote:

> __/ [ BearItAll ] on Wednesday 30 May 2007 12:56 \__
> 
>>> UK firms contest 'absurd' software patent ruling
>>> 
>>> ,----[ Quote ]
>>> | The five companies, Astron Clinica Limited, Cyan Holdings Plc,
>>> | Inrotis Technologies Limited, Software 2000 Limited and Surf
>>> | Kitchen argue variously that the IPO is stifling British
>>> | entrepreneurship, forcing UK firms to apply for patents
>>> | outside the UK, and putting British inventors at a disadvantage.
>>> `----
>>> 
>>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/05/29/legal_patent_challenge/
>>> 
>>> The fiends. They want to own some maths.
>> 
>> We britlanders invented gravity, anyone using it must pay us a sub in
>> order to continue using it.
>> 
>> Scotland can claim the rights to the television.
>> 
>> Canada has the telephone.
>> 
>> Robert Watt has radar, dam another one goes to Scotland.
>> 
>> The list is endless, but of cause these patent laws only seem to have
>> merit if the inventor either is american or no one currently has claimed
>> them, then it is first come first served provided you are American.
>> 
>> It's a daft post, but no more daft than the patent laws.
> 
> Well, it's a fine post. I didn't realise where you had disappeared. Even
> went to the SUSE NG looking for you...
> 

I've been to germany fighting with a Windows server, there had been an
upgrade that gave a huge long list of decription systems for ca keys on the
IPsec tunnel, it accepts both p12s and PEMs, just a shame that none on the
coding list were compatible with what I would say are standards. We had to
give up on that in the end, there's a Linux server winging it's way out
there to take it's place.

Before MS advocates start saying that MS Server is fully capable as a IPsec
client/subnet, my counterpart in Germany has worked on MS all his carreer
and he couldn't get it to work, he has many MS to MS VPNs running but he
could not get this smooth wall to MS working after the upgrade (which he
needed for other reasons).

I will say though that I was impressed with some of the diagnostic software
MS give on their servers. You can drill down to a lot of detail, which
happens to be where we finally found that although at the top level windows
only claimed an 'invalid key', at a lower level it just didn't have the
right decoder combination.


As it happens, I came back this morning to a laptop on my desk, someone had
bought a Vista machine and couldn't get it to connect to my network.
Niether could I. It picked up from my dhcp server, Internet is fine. But
absolutely nothing on the tcp side. When I went into the network setttings
the protocols were wrong, or at least none that I recognised. So I tried to
add one, there wasn't anything at all in the list of protocols.

I went to find out which version of Vista this was (because I couldn't find
it onboard), It was a Home Student eddition, on the list given on the
Internet it has no capabilities to join a domain. Which means on an
Internet it's fine, but on a network it isn't. What will a student do on
their first day at uni, they will try to join the network. I've given the
Vista machine back to the person who bought it and asked them to get XP for
it.


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