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Re: [News] ODF adoption booming

Jim Richardson wrote:
Erik Funkenbusch wrote:
Roy Schestowitz wrote:
[H]omer on Sunday:

ODF Alliance hails record growth in application support
for ODF

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In total, there are now more than two dozen
ODF-supporting text, spreadsheet, and presentation
applications announced in the past three months
`---- http://enterpriselinuxlog.blogs.techtarget.com/2007/10/26/odf-alliance-hails-record-growth-application-support-for-odf/

How many support Oh-Oh-XML, I wonder?

None. Microsoft Office 2007 implements something that
supports a derivative of OOXML. Remember: Microsoft has
admitted that it has no commitment to support OOXML, even
if it passes the ISO acid test. IOW, Microsoft can
continue to 'extend' and take its fully proprietary route,
even without this cloak called OOXML (which fool some
people that may no longer consider it proprietary). XML !=
Open.

A lot more could be said...

What complete and utter BS.  Sun hasn't committed to
supporting ODF either,

How is it BS? Since you agree MS hasn't committed to
supporting ooXml...

Sun hasn't committed to supporting ODF either? Erik is spouting his gobshite as usual:

http://www.sun.com/software/star/openoffice/index.xml

[quote]
Sun ODF Plugin 1.1 for Microsoft Office Available Now as a Free Download

Microsoft Office users can now import and export to Open Document Format (ODF).

The Sun ODF Plugin for Microsoft Office gives users of Microsoft Word, Excel and Powerpoint the ability to read, edit and save to the ISO-standard Open Document Format. The ODF Plugin is available as a free download from the Sun Download Center (SDLC).

The Plugin is easy to setup and use, the conversion happens transparently and the additional memory footprint is minimal. Microsoft Office users now can have seamless two-way conversion of Microsoft Office documents to and from Open Document. The ODF Plugin runs on Microsoft Windows and is available in 17 different languages.
[/quote]

in fact their patent pledge gives them an out if they decide
not to.

In your flippant "none" comment, you ignore the fact that
StarOffice didn't support ISO ODF at first either, they had
to release an update to things that changed in the standards
process.  That's precisely the state that Office is in, the
only deviations are things that changed during the standards
process.

What's more, besides Star/Open office and it's forks, there
are 0 complete implementations of ODF either.  And that's to
be expected, because otherwise they'd just be copies of
OpenOffice.  An app cannot implement 100% of either standard
unless they support 100% of the features of that standard.

Then there will never be a non-MS 100% implementation of OOXML
since MS maintains copyright on bits required by parts of it.
Hell, with that definition of yours, there will probably never
be a 100% implemention of OOXML even from MS.

Again, Erik is spouting more gobshite. His argument is like .rtf files created by Microsoft Write (Wordpad) are not a 100% Word implementation, because it does not support 100% of Word's features. Issue is compatibility. One does not have to implement 100% of the standard to be compliant with the standard.

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HPT

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