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Re: [News] Brazil & NZ Reject OOXML; Australia Changes Mind, Won't Vote "Yes" on OOXML

Hadron wrote:

> Linonut <linonut@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes:
> 
>> After takin' a swig o' grog, Roy Schestowitz belched out this bit o'
>> wisdom:
>>
>>> ____/ Linonut on Monday 03 September 2007 21:51 : \____
>>>
>>>> After takin' a swig o' grog, Roy Schestowitz belched out this bit o'
>>>> wisdom:
>>>> 
>>>>> Brazil votes against Open XML
>>>>>
>>>>> ,----[ Quote ]
>>>>> | Among the issues cited are lack of compatibility with the Gregorian
>>>>> | calendar, lack of support for languages such as Chinese, Japanese
>>>>> | and Korean, and security issues including the possibility of
>>>>> | password breaches and vulnerability to viruses.
>>>>> `----
>>>>>
>>>
http://www.itworldcanada.com/a/News/41c10c11-2ee9-4052-ba6c-93026ca1b1d4.html
>>>> 
>>>> Is this really true:
>>>> 
>>>>    Among the issues cited are lack of compatibility with the Gregorian
>>>>    calendar, lack of support for languages such as Chinese, Japanese
>>>>    and Korean, ...
>>>> 
>>>> If so, get OOXML the fuck out of ISO.
>>>  
>>> Of course. China cited this as a reason a long time ago. This is not a
>>> standard really. It's a bunch of programmers in the 80s hacking on code
>>> rather than looking at existing standards, e.g. for date formatting. To
>>> this date, Microsoft's formats are a sordid mess with specs like
>>> "DoTabsLikeWord97" or "EmulateWordPerfect". This is 2007! What an
>>> inelegant mess.
>>
>> I don't understand how even a Microsoft Partner cannot see this, and
>> vote against it.
>>
>> If stuff like this gets into ISO, then ISO is moot.
> 
> It's called backward compatibility. Jesus.

Yes. Of a single company, MS
No other can provide compatability, not without and neither with
an "standard" like that. What kind of "open standard" is it, when only one
company can provide the apps for it?
How do you "DoTabsLikeWord97" when no code is provided showing how to do it
exactly? And by "exactly" it is meant "exactly", not approximate.
Their "standards proposal" is filled with such gems. And every single one
of them can only be done by one company: MS
 
> Having said that, not catering for these locales seems an oversight. 

"Oversight". Yes. That must be it. 

There simply can't be another reason, "true linux advocate", "kernel
hacker", "emacs user", "swapfile expert", "X specialist", "CUPS
guru", "USB-disk server admin", "newsreader magician" and "hardware maven"
Hadron Quark, aka Hans Schneider, aka Damian O'Leary

> But I did notice one thing :
> 
> ,----
> | The Brazilian organization in charge of technical standards has decided
> | to vote "no, with conditions" to Microsoft Corp.'s Office Open XML
> | document format during an International Organization for Standardization
> | (ISO) meeting on Sunday.
> `----
> 
> "with conditions".
> 
Yes. Those conditions being that MS remove the obstacles. Which it will not
do, for fear of losing its stranglehold on Office.

Apart from that: Practically all "no"-votes are "with conditions".
-- 
You are a shining example for the advances in artificial stupidity


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