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[News] [Rival] Microsoft's SOA Dirty Play Carries On

  • Subject: [News] [Rival] Microsoft's SOA Dirty Play Carries On
  • From: Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 04:19:26 +0100
  • Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy
  • Organization: Netscape / schestowitz.com
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More obvious misgivings about Microsoft and SOA

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| My take is that inside of Microsoft its aggressor A-types are all about 
| dissing SOA and promoting .NET ad nauseam. At the same time the Microserfs 
| and developers must understand the inevitability of SOA for at last a portion 
| of the most advanced and innovative enterprises’ and service providers’ 
| architectures.    
| 
| And so, as the world turns toward SOA, Microsoft will fight quietly inside of 
| itself about what it really is as a company — a partner to its customers, or 
| a parasite on the hide of productivity.  
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http://blogs.zdnet.com/Gardner/?p=2538


Related:

Microsoft: My way or the highway with SOA?

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| Microsoft isn’t changing its tune with SOA, the authors say, noting 
| that “Microsoft again appears to be crafting its own rules and vision. The 
| company has so far declined to participate in certain key emerging industry 
| standards relevant to SOA. It has a different perspective on what SOA is and 
| a different approach for crystallizing its vision.“    
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http://blogs.zdnet.com/service-oriented/?p=931


Microsoft absent from open standards movement around SOA

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| Now, a new series of SOA standards is headed to OASIS, ones that could 
| create a whole market segment around SOA common programmatic principles, 
| but Microsoft is nowhere in sight. The absence of Microsoft from the 
| Service Component Architecture (SCA), and its sibling Service Data 
| Objects (SDO), definitions process can mean one thing: Microsoft will 
| pursue its proprietary approach of baking pseudo-SOA into its 
| operating system stack as long as it can.
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http://blogs.zdnet.com/Gardner/?p=2483


Halloween Memo I Confirmed and Microsoft's History on Standards

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|  By the way, if you are by any chance trying to figure out Microsoft's policy 
|  toward standards, particularly in the context of ODF-EOXML, that same 
|  Microsoft page is revelatory, Microsoft's answer to what the memo meant when 
|  it said that Microsoft could extend standard protocols so as to deny 
|  Linux "entry into the market":    
|
|    Q: The first document talked about extending standard protocols as a way 
|    to "deny OSS projects entry into the market." What does this mean? 
|
|    A: To better serve customers, Microsoft needs to innovate above standard 
|    protocols. By innovating above the base protocol, we are able to deliver 
|    advanced functionality to users. An example of this is adding 
|    transactional support for DTC over HTTP. This would be a value-add and 
|    would in no way break the standard or undermine the concept of standards, 
|    of which Microsoft is a significant supporter. Yet it would allow us to 
|    solve a class of problems in value chain integration for our Web-based 
|    customers that are not solved by any public standard today. Microsoft 
|    recognizes that customers are not served by implementations that are 
|    different without adding value; we therefore support standards as the 
|    foundation on which further innovation can be based.          
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http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20070127202224445 


Microsoft needs REST

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| Yaron Goland defended his Microsoft colleague, Dare Objasanjo, as a poor 
| sitting duck. He justifies the decision to scrap APP as tactical and not 
| strategic. He states: “We considered this option but the changes needed to 
| make APP work for our scenarios were so fundamental that it wasn’t clear if 
| the resulting protocol would still be APP… I also have to admit that I was 
| deathly afraid of the political implications of Microsoft messing around with 
| APP.” According to Goland, “we couldn’t figure out how to use APP without 
| putting an unacceptable implementation and performance burden on both our 
| customers and ourselves.”       
| 
| The implications for this APP vs. Web3S debate can potentially be enormous. 
| Just as we are on the brink of creating simple architectures that are 
| interoperable using simple standards, the industry risks splitting into 
| separate, incompatible camps again. It is probably no coincidence that we 
| have Microsoft on one side and Google, IBM and Sun on the other. This will be 
| a fundamental problem for enterprise customers if Microsoft extends this 
| strategy into any REST architectures that it introduces into the enterprise. 
| Any enterprise systems that expose their data using APP, which is likely in 
| the near future, will be incompatible with any Microsoft system that expose 
| their data with Web3S.         
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http://blogs.zdnet.com/Newton/?p=14

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