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[News] [Rival] Microsoft OOXML: Committees and Shenanigans in Poland Broke the Rules, Philippines Suspect Also

  • Subject: [News] [Rival] Microsoft OOXML: Committees and Shenanigans in Poland Broke the Rules, Philippines Suspect Also
  • From: Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2008 10:17:04 +0100
  • Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy
  • User-agent: KNode/0.10.4
Shenanigans Alleged on Road to OOXML Vote

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| The events leading up to the ISO's decision on OOXML can best be described as 
| strange. 
|
| Take the case of KT 182, the Polish technical committee responsible for the 
| OOXML standardization process, as described on Groklaw: Chairperson Elzbieta 
| Andrukiewicz was instructed that KT 182 should abstain from voting if a 
| consensus was not achieved. Well, it wasn't, and she said the members who 
| were absent could vote by e-mail E-Mail Marketing Software - Free Trial. 
| Click Here. -- but if they didn't vote, she'd take their non-response as a 
| yes.      
| 
| Later, when presenting the results of the ballot resolution, she showed a 
| slide that claimed 98 percent of the OOXML issues had been resolved during 
| the KT 182 meeting.  
| 
| When reminded this wasn't true, and told that the author of the PowerPoint 
| file was Paul Pesch, platform strategy manager at Microsoft Netherlands, she 
| threatened to sue anyone who repeated the assertion that Pesch was the 
| author.   
| 
| That slide had been shown at another meeting, and one of the Brazilian 
| delegates had complained about it.  
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http://www.linuxinsider.com/rsstory/62400.html

How the Philippines Changed Its OOXML Vote from No to Yes 

,----[ Quote ]
| The Manila Bulletin Online tells us how the Philippines changed its No vote 
| on OOXML to Yes. Once again there is an indication that when no consensus was 
| reached, the chairman decided to make it Yes. That blatantly happened in 
| Norway, and I can't help but want more details about the Philippines.   
`----

http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20080402003610230

Don't forget. There is a formal large-scale investigation, so nothing is over
and sealed. Microsoft tries to make journalists forget this.


Recent:

Norway asks to suspend its 'Yes' vote on OOXML

,----[ Quote ]
| Some members of the Norwegian committee that participated in the 
| International Organization for Standardization's Office Open XML vote are 
| calling on Norway's Ministry of Trade and Industry to suspend the 
| country's "yes" vote pending an investigation, according to a letter to the 
| ISO from the Norwegian committee's chairman.     
`----

http://www.linuxworld.com.au/index.php?id=124372770&rid=-50


Bill Gates takes the phone to lobby Mexico

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| Rumors are running that he also lobbied Denmark, where it is well known that 
| he is a friend of the Prime Minister. 
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http://www.noooxml.org/forum/t-50275/bill-gates-takes-the-phone-to-lobby-mexico


Poland confirms its approval for OOXML in ISO

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|     * 24 members voted to approve (7 of them without even knowing that, since 
|       no vote was counted as a vote to approve), 
|     * 13 members voted against approving the standard (a ‘NO’ vote),
|     * 4 remaining members decided that Poland should abstain from voting.
`----

http://polishlinux.org/poland/poland-confirms-its-approval-for-ooxml-in-iso/


Poland: You don't vote, so you vote in favour of the standard

http://www.noooxml.org/forum/t-50291/poland:you-don-t-vote-so-you-vote-in-favour-of-the-standard


Related:

EU Initiates Investigation Against Microsoft OOXML Push

,----[ Quote ]
| But with Steve Ballmer taking over as CEO, there was supposed to be a kinder, 
| gentler Microsoft - one that would play nicely with its competitors.  When 
| antitrust regulators in turn challenged this new Microsoft, it issued not 
| challenges to fight to the end to prove that it had done nothing illegal, but 
| statements promising to "cooperate fully."    
| 
| But at the same time, Microsoft is still a tough competitor.  As Microsoft's 
| Director of Corporate Standards Jason Matusow famously warned at his blog 
| last year:  
| 
|     Make no mistake; all parties are looking at the full picture to find 
|     strategies that will result in the outcome they desire. Provided - of 
|     course - that they do so within the context of the rules that apply to 
|     the process, this is exactly what one should expect to happen. It is 
|     going to be a very interesting next few months.    
| 
| Indeed, the months that followed proved to be interesting indeed.  Microsoft 
| said that some of its employees became over zealous, most flagrantly in 
| Sweden, where marketing assists were promised to several business partners as 
| incentives to join the national standards committee and vote for OOXM.   
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http://www.consortiuminfo.org/standardsblog/article.php?story=20080208082501776


EU Commission Investigating Microsoft's MSOOXML Push

,----[ Quote ]
| I hope they think to investigate the smear campaigns that seem to always 
| happen to anyone on the other side from Microsoft. What happened to Peter 
| Quinn was by no means unique.  
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http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20080208151410252


Corrupt countries were more likely to support the OOXML document format

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| Is this just a random coincidence? The median of the CPI index of the above 
| mentioned 70 countries is 3.95. Of the most corrupted half (CPI index less 
| than 3.95) 23 or 77% voted for approval (approval or approval with comments) 
| and 7 or 23% for disapproval; 5 abstained. Of the least corrupted half (CPI 
| index more than 3.95) 13 or 54% voted for approval and 11 or 46% voted for 
| disapproval; 11 abstained - see the table below.      
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http://www.effi.org/blog/kai-2007-09-05.en.html


Microsoft accused of more OOXML standards fiddling 

,----[ Quote ]
| However the 11 new countries are refusing to say how they will vote. These 
| include Cote d'Ivoire, Cyprus, Ecuador, Jamaica, Lebanon, Malta, Pakistan, 
| Trinidad and Tobago, Turkey, Uruguay and Venezuela. Most people seem to think 
| that these have been put there by Vole to make sure the standard gets pushed 
| through.    
`----

http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=42106



OOXML News From Denmark

,----[ Quote ]
| It appears that pressure was put on partners there as well, although 
| Microsoft denies that was the intent. 
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http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20070831002558681


,----[ Quote ]
| Re: In Denmark, Microsoft has 2 out of 4 votes
| 
| InzpektorInzpektor 18 Feb 2008, 15:20 BST
| 
| The Danish delegation for the BRM will consist of:
| 
|     * IBM
|     * Dansk Standard (the national standards body)
|     * Microsoft - Themselves!
|     * Microsoft Gold Certified Partner Ciber A/S
| 
| So, I guess that means that the Danish votes are a tie. (Ofcourse with the 
| national standards body being the joker here :-) ) 
| 
| Reference:
| http://www.ds.dk/3537 (In Danish)
`----

http://www.noooxml.org/forum/t-41947/microsoft-s-wikipedia-editor-goes-to-the-brm-to-represent-australia

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