Alex Brown: OOXML is like a baroque castle with secret passages and crumbling
towers
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| Here's a quotation for the ages, from an Alex Brown comment on Andrew
| Updegrove's Standards Blog (scroll down) asking Brown if he'd agree that ODF
| was cleaner than OOXML:
|
| "I'd go with that. I think ISO/IEC 26300 (ODF 1.0) can be compared to a
| neat house built on good foundations which is not finished; 29500 (OOXML)
| is a baroque cliffside castle replete with toppling towers, secret
| passages and ghosts: it is all too finished."
|
| [...]
|
| I see I am not alone in viewing OOXML as a move of aggression. Microsoft must
| be realizing by now by the outpouring of dismay all over the world that this
| isn't just a typical vendor fight, where winner takes all and everyone shakes
| hands and moves on. The public cares about ODF, because it realizes it will
| impact every one of us directly, and we see the obvious, that OOXML is a
| spoiler. This has nothing to do with market share.
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http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20080414181840439
And now comes the damage control ("Mom!! They say all those nasty things about
us (Microsoft+ISO+ECMA vendor capture)!!!"):
ISO calls for end to OOXML 'personal attacks'
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| The move came as an ISO committee meeting in Norway attracted protesters, who
| gathered to call for the retraction of OOXML from the ISO standardisation
| process.
|
| At the start of April, the document format won enough votes to become a fully
| fledged ISO standard. Many observers had been against that standardisation,
| pointing out that the OpenDocument Format (ODF) already existed as an ISO
| standard, and arguing that OOXML's documentation contained too many
| unanswered technical problems to be passed.
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http://www.builderau.com.au/news/soa/ISO-calls-for-end-to-OOXML-personal-attacks-/0,339028227,339288176,00.htm
Related:
SC34 opens the flood gates to ECMA
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| In my French, ISO is to become the next ECMA International. Indeed, SC34
| expects more controversy to come: The participants in SC 34 propose to shield
| themselves from public criticism.
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http://www.noooxml.org/forum/t-53066/sc34-opens-the-flood-gates-to-ecma
Martin Bryan: we are getting “standardization by corporation”
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| A November informative report of Martin Bryan, Convenor, ISO/IEC JTC1/SC34
| WG1 highlights the fallout of the ECMA-376 fast-track process for ISO. He
| says he is 'glad to be retiring before the situation becomes impossible'
|
| [...]
|
| In what is an astonishingly outspoken report, Martin Bryan, Convenor, ISO/IEC
| JTC1/SC34 WG1 has given us insight into the total mess that Microsoft/ECMA
| have caused during their scandalous, underhand and unremitting attempts to
| get - what is a very poorly written specification {i.e. DIS 29500 aka OOXML,
| AR} - approved as an ISO standard. …
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http://www.noooxml.org/forum/t-30107/martin-bryan:we-are-getting-standardization-by-corporation
Dysfunctional ISO - Courtesy of Microsoft
http://opendotdotdot.blogspot.com/2007/12/dysfunctional-iso-courtesy-of-microsoft.html
Microsoft accused of stacking ISO committee
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| In a memo sent following his last meeting as head of the working group on
| WG1, which is handling Microsoft’s application to make the Word format an ISO
| standard as ECMA 376, outgoing Governor Martin Bryan (above), an expert on
| SGML and XML, accused the company of stacking his group.
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http://blogs.zdnet.com/open-source/?p=1777
Member of EU Parliament asks if Microsoft should be excluded from public
procurement
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| Of course, if the EU Commission wants to find a way to avoid such a penalty,
| no doubt it can do so. We saw how creative rule-bending/creating can be in
| the ISO. But the very fact that this question is being placed on the table is
| remarkable in itself, don't you think? Something significant has shifted in
| Microsoft's universe. And if they are afraid to make such a move, due to the
| ubiquity of Microsoft software and their dependence upon it, might that alone
| not inspire some deep thoughts about the wisdom of doing something about that
| vulnerability?
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http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20080410050845876
EU Initiates Investigation Against Microsoft OOXML Push
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| But with Steve Ballmer taking over as CEO, there was supposed to be a kinder,
| gentler Microsoft - one that would play nicely with its competitors. When
| antitrust regulators in turn challenged this new Microsoft, it issued not
| challenges to fight to the end to prove that it had done nothing illegal, but
| statements promising to "cooperate fully."
|
| But at the same time, Microsoft is still a tough competitor. As Microsoft's
| Director of Corporate Standards Jason Matusow famously warned at his blog
| last year:
|
| Make no mistake; all parties are looking at the full picture to find
| strategies that will result in the outcome they desire. Provided - of
| course - that they do so within the context of the rules that apply to
| the process, this is exactly what one should expect to happen. It is
| going to be a very interesting next few months.
|
| Indeed, the months that followed proved to be interesting indeed. Microsoft
| said that some of its employees became over zealous, most flagrantly in
| Sweden, where marketing assists were promised to several business partners as
| incentives to join the national standards committee and vote for OOXM.
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http://www.consortiuminfo.org/standardsblog/article.php?story=20080208082501776
EU Commission Investigating Microsoft's MSOOXML Push
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| I hope they think to investigate the smear campaigns that seem to always
| happen to anyone on the other side from Microsoft. What happened to Peter
| Quinn was by no means unique.
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http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20080208151410252
Software wars
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| Allegations of committee-stuffing, the outcome of votes overridden by
| political appointees, a final decision that many involved consider tainted:
| this may sound like a discredited election in some third world country. But
| it is actually a description of an ugly fight over international technical
| standards that wrapped up this week. Microsoft came out on top, but at the
| cost of tarnishing its reputation and the credibility of an important
| back-room process that oils the wheels of many global industries.
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http://www.ft.com/cms/s/c9743360-01a8-11dd-a323-000077b07658,Authorised=false.html?_i_location=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ft.com%2Fcms%2Fs%2F0%2Fc9743360-01a8-11dd-a323-000077b07658.html%3Fnclick_check%3D1&_i_referer=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.computerworlduk.com%2Ftool
The OOXML BRM: Secrets and statistics
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| Of all the “condensed” resolutions from ECMA, approximately 82% were not
| discussed at all, including counter proposals for these same issues. That
| leaves about 18% that were either discussed and voted on or else voted on
| early in batch. (I’m fine with batch votes for minor typographical fixes.)
|
| What an utter and predictable embarrassment.
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http://www.sutor.com/newsite/blog-open/?p=2090
The Art of Being Mugged
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| The four options presented were:
|
| * Option 1: Submitter's responses (Ecma's) are all automatically
| approved.
| * Option 2: Anything not discussed is not approved.
| * Option 3: Neutral third-party (ITTF) decides which Ecma responses are
| accepted
| * Option 4: Voting (approve + disapprove) must be at least 9 votes.
| Abstentions not counted.
|
| We were told that these options are not in the Directives and that were are
| given these choices because ITTF "needs to act in the best interests of the
| IEC". I don't quite get it, but there appears to be some concern over what
| the press would think if the BRM did not handle all of the comments. One NB
| requested to speak and asked, "I wonder what the press would think about
| arbitrarily changed procedures?". No response. I thought to myself, why
| wasn't ITTF thinking about the 'best interests" of JTC1 when they allowed a
| 6,045 page Fast Track submission, or ignored all those contradiction
| submissions, or decided to schedule a 5-day BRM to handle 3,522 NB comments.
| Isn't it a bit late to start worrying about what the press will think?
|
| We break for lunch.
|
| After lunch and after more discussion, the meeting adopted a variation of
| option 4, by removing the vote minimum. I believe in this vote the BRM and
| ITTF exceeded its authority and violated the consensus principles described
| in JTC1 Directives.
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http://www.robweir.com/blog/2008/03/art-of-being-mugged.html
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