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Re: Publishing of OOXML standard by ISO delayed due to appeal process

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____/ Linonut on Sunday 17 August 2008 15:39 : \____

> * Tim Smith peremptorily fired off this memo:
> 
>> In article <3eyhrvagwf18$.s3w6hcfrhtlt$.dlg@xxxxxxxxxx>,
>>  "Moshe Goldfarb." <brick_n_straw@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Open Source freedom fighters whining again.
>>> 
>>> So when does the "Boycott ISO" site go up Roy Schestowitz?
>>> 
>>> With the proper Google seeding you should be able to generate a decent
>>> amount of hits on a site like that.
>>
>> The FUDsters lost.  Here's something noted open standards advocate Rick
>> Jelliffe ...
> 
> You lost me right there.

Rick Jelliffe is a paid Microsoft consultant that corrupted Wikipedia backed by
Microsoft's incentives that they approached him with. He has no morals.



"Consultants: These guys are your best bets as moderators. Get a well-known
consultant on your side early, but don’t let him publish anything blatantly
pro-Microsoft. Then, get him to propose himself to the conference organizers
as a moderator, whenever a panel opportunity comes up. Since he’s well-known,
but apparently independent, he’ll be accepted - one less thing for the
constantly-overworked conference organizer to worry about, right?"

                                                -- Microsoft

http://antitrust.slated.org/www.iowaconsumercase.org/011607/3000/PX03096.pdf


Rick Jelliffe questions the "anti-OOXML mob"

,----[ Quote ]
| Dog bites man vs. man bites dog
| 
| Microsoft is used to play hard without any conservatism in terms of 
| reputation. Other companies that were in a weaker market position adapted to 
| a changing market environment and they are responsive to the public. The lack 
| of care for reputation clearly plays in the hands of every campaigner. It's 
| your favourite opponent because they will deliver you the lethal action you 
| need to entertain your community. In a crime fiction about the Mafia no one 
| is shocked by their killings because you expect it as natural. In the case of  
| Microsoft this may result in the attitude of some bloggers to cry louder 
| about foul play. I don't think this is the right approach but the economics 
| of it is well understood.        
`----

http://www.noooxml.org/forum/t-46838/rick-jelliffe-questions-the-anti-ooxml-mob


Standards Australia denies OOXML bias

,----[ Quote ] 
| Representatives from IBM, Google, Catalyst IT and Waugh Partners expressed 
| their concern the appointment of Topologi director Rick Jelliffe to the 
| delegation was not indicative of the wider industry view on OOXML 
| standardization.   
`----

http://www.linuxworld.com.au/index.php?id=1735452258&rid=-50


ISO SQL editor Jim Melton's view on OOXML

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| You've written 6000 pages of specification largely in secret (and, I 
| understand, recently added over 1500 more pages) and given the world five 
| months to read, absorb, understand, review, critique, and establish informed 
| positions on it. Worse, whether it happened because of unreasonable methods, 
| pure random chance, or genuine and unexpected interest, the fact that the 
| size of the JTC 1 Subcommittee that was to vote on the document suddenly 
| exploded gives the appearance that somebody was trying too hard to stack the 
| deck...almost as though it wasn't really desired to have too much real 
| review.        
`----

http://www.noooxml.org/forum/t-48130/iso-sql-editor-jim-melton-s-view-on-ooxml


The OOXML BRM and Australia: What happens next

,----[ Quote ]
| Senior project manager at Standards Australia, Panjan Navaratnam, will head 
| the delegation and shoulder the responsibility for all Australian positions. 
| He will be supported in an advisory role by technical expert Rick Jeliffe.  
| 
| Despite some concerns surrounding the objectivity of Jeliffe, Standards 
| Australia insists that its delegates are not participating as an agent of any 
| personal or organisational viewpoint.   
`----

http://www.linuxworld.com.au/index.php?id=1392366014&rid=-50


Standards Australia defends Jelliffe he has never developed Microsoft products

,----[ Quote ]
| Look at this press release from Standards Australia, it is really funny how 
| they carefully weight their words: 
| 
|     The article also incorrectly describes Rick Jelliffe as a ‘Microsoft 
|     developer’. While Mr Jelliffe consults widely to industry and government 
|     including Microsoft, he has never developed Microsoft products.  
| 
| Let's rewrite it like this to see if it changes something:
| 
|     Rick Jelliffe is not a ‘Microsoft developer’ as such. While Mr Jelliffe 
|     is being paid for consultancy work by Microsoft, he is not developing 
|     Microsoft products.  
| 
| Where is the money?
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http://www.noooxml.org/forum/t-42872/standards-australia-defends-jelliffe:he-has-never-developed-microsoft-products


Microsoft developer joins Aussie OOXML standards delegation

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| Last year Jelliffe was implicated in editing OOXML Wikipedia entries at the 
| request of Microsoft. A public explanation is available on Jelliffe's blog. 
`----

http://www.computerworld.com.au/index.php/id;445400562;fp;16;fpid;1


How to Get Your Platform Accepted as a Standard - Microsoft Style

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| In the section of an internal manual on effective evangelism, written in 1997 
| by James Plamondon, Technical Evangelist, he lays out an elaborate series of 
| steps to get Microsoft's platforms accepted as de facto standards. Among the 
| steps lists are working behind the scenes with supposedly independent but 
| actually pliable and supportive analysts and consultants.    
`----

http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20071023002351958


EU Initiates Investigation Against Microsoft OOXML Push

,----[ Quote ]
| But with Steve Ballmer taking over as CEO, there was supposed to be a kinder, 
| gentler Microsoft - one that would play nicely with its competitors.  When 
| antitrust regulators in turn challenged this new Microsoft, it issued not 
| challenges to fight to the end to prove that it had done nothing illegal, but 
| statements promising to "cooperate fully."    
| 
| But at the same time, Microsoft is still a tough competitor.  As Microsoft's 
| Director of Corporate Standards Jason Matusow famously warned at his blog 
| last year:  
| 
|     Make no mistake; all parties are looking at the full picture to find 
|     strategies that will result in the outcome they desire. Provided - of 
|     course - that they do so within the context of the rules that apply to 
|     the process, this is exactly what one should expect to happen. It is 
|     going to be a very interesting next few months.    
| 
| Indeed, the months that followed proved to be interesting indeed.  Microsoft 
| said that some of its employees became over zealous, most flagrantly in 
| Sweden, where marketing assists were promised to several business partners as 
| incentives to join the national standards committee and vote for OOXM.   
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http://www.consortiuminfo.org/standardsblog/article.php?story=20080208082501776


EU Commission Investigating Microsoft's MSOOXML Push

,----[ Quote ]
| I hope they think to investigate the smear campaigns that seem to always 
| happen to anyone on the other side from Microsoft. What happened to Peter 
| Quinn was by no means unique.  
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http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20080208151410252

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