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Not very appealing: ISO/IEC kicks out appeals
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| It is evident to me that the appeal voting is highly vulnerable to
| manipulation when you have to get a 2/3 majority. The voting was not even on
| the substance of the appeals but on "further processing" them and I am not
| aware of any "further processing" formality decision requirement. A 2/3
| majority rule always means that one option is favoured in advance. In ISO and
| national bodies it is common for processing of specifications where the bias
| is usually towards adoption. Do you need a 2/3 majority for "processing
| further" the appeal or "rejecting it before consideration"? You get the
| point. At times you vote until you get the wanted results. A friend of mine
| was furious about the ISO/IEC decision and asked himself similar questions:
|
| Where is it written that it is needed a support of 2/3 to process an
| appeal? This could be considered a humiliation for the countries that
| have summitted the appeals.
|
| Looks like the ISO/IEC procedural rules and their interpretation offer great
| surprises again. Or as a more devilish commentator suggested
|
| It is an elegant abuse of newly invented rules to justify the abuse of
| previous rules. You have to admire the way it even sounds democratic…
|
| [...]
|
| This is not the end
|
| The NB concerned may appeal this decision to the Councils.
|
| I am curious if that would happen. The effects are described by the ISO press
| release
|
| According to the ISO/IEC rules, DIS 29500 can now proceed to publication
| as an ISO/IEC International Standard. This is expected to take place
| within the next few weeks on completion of final processing of the
| document, and subject to no further appeals against the decision.
|
| Effectively it would make a lot of sense for National Bodies to do it.
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http://www.noooxml.org/forum/t-81761/not-very-appealing:iso-iec-kicks-out-appeals
Recent:
UPDATE - Countries may follow South Africa in appealing Microsoft-sponsored
OOXML standard: ISO
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| According to ISO spokesman Roger Frost, "Because the period for receipt of
| appeals remains open until the end of May, ISO will communicate on the next
| steps in early June, when it knows whether any other national bodies are
| appealing."
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http://www.itvendorsdirectory.ca/Online-Resources/microsoft-ooxml-iso-standard-appeal-south-africa-001.html
South Africa appeals against OOXML, call your Standards Body now!
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| The South African Standards Body SABS have lodged an appeal at ISO against
| the awful fast-track process of DIS29500, or Microsoft Office OpenXML. Please
| call your national Standards Body and ask them to support this complain. You
| have only 7 days because the deadline is 30 May, 2 months after the ISO vote.
|
| Steve Pepper, being so disgused about the intervention of a Norwegian
| bureaucrat reverting the decision of the Norwegian Technical Committee, is
| pointing at the fact that this person is also member of the ISO Technical
| Management Board (TMB), who will decide on the future of this appeal. I hope
| we will have some transparency on who is deciding what inside ISO on this
| appeal. It is time for ISO to clean up its stables, they have not been
| cleaned for several years, and they are getting dirty and smelly.
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http://www.noooxml.org/forum/t-61468/south-africa-appeals-against-ooxml-call-your-standards-body-now
The South Africa Bureau of Standards submits an official appeal to ISO and IEC
against OOXML
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| At least one National Body has submitted a formal complaint to ISO and IEC.
| South Africa was rather vocal about the Fast Tracking process of OOXML from
| day one.
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http://www.openmalaysiablog.com/2008/05/the-south-afric.html
Related:
ISO Fantasy
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| What OOXML Is · The ISO process, brutal and corrupt as it was, has been
| ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
| covered to death by everyone. Its output, soon to be known as ISO/IEC 29500,
| differs from ECMA-376 in two ways. ¶
|
| [...]
|
| What Microsoft really wanted was that ISO stamp of approval to use as a
| marketing tool. And just like your mother told you, when they get what they
| want and have their way with you, they’re probably not gonna call you in the
| morning.
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http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/200x/2008/04/15/OOXML
Computer experts stage street protest in Oslo against Microsoft document format
as standard
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| OSLO, Norway: Roughly 60 data experts staged a rare and noisy street
| demonstration in downtown Oslo on Wednesday to protest the adoption of
| Microsoft Corp.'s document format as an international standard and against
| Norway voting for the move.
|
| [...]
|
| He claimed the committee ignored the advice of the vast majority of the
| Nordic nation's software experts, was pressured by Microsoft and
| displayed "scandalous behavior."
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http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2008/04/09/business/EU-TEC-Norway-Digital-Demonstration.php
OOXML triggers demonstration in Norway: "Let's throw OOXML out of ISO"
http://www.noooxml.org/forum/t-52412/ooxml-triggers-demonstration-in-norway:let-s-throw-ooxml-out-of-iso
Demonstration outside ISO conference
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| Steve Pepper, the former Chairman of the Norwegian committee responsible for
| deciding the Norwegian vote on OOXML, is calling for a demonstration to take
| place outside the building where SC34, the ISO committee that has been landed
| with OOXML, is holding its spring plenary.
|
| The demonstration will take place outside Håndverkeren, Rosenkrantzgate 7,
| Oslo, Norway, on Wednesday April 9 at 12.00. Among the slogans are:
|
| * No to ISO approval of OOXML!
| * Defend the integrity of ISO!
| * Microsoft: Support ODF!
| * Ecma: Withdraw OOXML!
| * Norway must say no to OOXML!
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http://blogs.freecode.no/isene/2008/04/07/demonstration-outside-iso-conference/
Shenanigans Alleged on Road to OOXML Vote
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| The events leading up to the ISO's decision on OOXML can best be described as
| strange.
|
| Take the case of KT 182, the Polish technical committee responsible for the
| OOXML standardization process, as described on Groklaw: Chairperson Elzbieta
| Andrukiewicz was instructed that KT 182 should abstain from voting if a
| consensus was not achieved. Well, it wasn't, and she said the members who
| were absent could vote by e-mail E-Mail Marketing Software - Free Trial.
| Click Here. -- but if they didn't vote, she'd take their non-response as a
| yes.
|
| Later, when presenting the results of the ballot resolution, she showed a
| slide that claimed 98 percent of the OOXML issues had been resolved during
| the KT 182 meeting.
|
| When reminded this wasn't true, and told that the author of the PowerPoint
| file was Paul Pesch, platform strategy manager at Microsoft Netherlands, she
| threatened to sue anyone who repeated the assertion that Pesch was the
| author.
|
| That slide had been shown at another meeting, and one of the Brazilian
| delegates had complained about it.
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http://www.linuxinsider.com/rsstory/62400.html
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