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Microsoft investment shows all is not well at Novell
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| The extension of the deal indicates one thing - all the money which has been
| pumped into Novell so far is not yielding the returns which either company
| hoped for and it is now time to further subsidise SUSE Linux.
|
| Yes, subsidise SUSE Linux. That is the main game from Microsoft's
| perspective - the subsidising of a GNU/Linux distribution which Microsoft is
| slowly infiltrating and trying to control. All this talk about
| interoperability is so much window (pun intended) dressing.
|
| [...]
|
| As Novell is finding out, and will continue to discover, such deals are
| counter-productive to the bottom line.
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http://www.itwire.com/content/view/20317/1148/
Novell revenue up, net income loss at $15 million
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| Novell Thursday posted a net income loss of $15 million for its fiscal third
| quarter fueled by a charge related to its “auction-rate securities.”
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http://www.networkworld.com/news/2008/082808-novell-earnings.html?hpg1=bn
Why is anyone defending Novell?
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| Why is anyone still defending Novell? Is it because Novell and Microsoft gag
| journalists [1, 2, 3], police coverage, hijack voices, and have it all serve
| as brainwash touting a treasonous relationship?
|
|
| We learned why a few years ago from emails subpoenaed in court cases against
| Microsoft:
| http://www.groklaw.net/pdf/PX04081.pdf
| From the Comes v. Microsoft collection, it's an August 2000 PR strategy email
| from Microsoft's PR firm, Waggener Edstrom,....
|
| As discussed in our PR meeting this morning. David & I have spoken with
| Maureen O'Gara (based on go ahead from BrianV) and planted the story. She has
| agreed to not attribute the story to us....
|
| Tactics: ...
|
| * Inform Maureen O' Gara (Senior Editor Client Server News/LinuxGram) or John
| Markoff (NYT) of announcement on Aug 28, 2000. Owner dougmil (Approval
| received from BrianV to proceed)
|
| * Contact Eric Raymond, Tim O'Reilly or Bruce Perrins to solicit support for
| this going against the objectives of the Open Source movement. Owner: dougmil
| [Doug Miller]. Note that I will not be doing this. Maureen O'Gara said she
| was going to call them so it looks better coming from her.
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http://www.linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2008-08-29-003-35-OP-BZ-NV-0000
Cutting Deals With Redmond
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| Then remember that the company isn't subsidizing SLES to all and sundry —
| only to customers (including potential ones.) If Microsoft can't stop them
| from moving some of their workloads to Linux, it can at least try to control
| them by herding them to a Linux from a company it has a strong relationship
| with. Since the two companies have agreed to collaborate on interoperability,
| and since Microsoft is paying Novell a quarter of what it's receiving for its
| Linux business, it's not a huge step to imagine Microsoft is calling the
| collaboration tune and Novell doing the dancing.
|
| But Microsoft will also get something else of value from the deal: a better
| idea of what its customers are up to when it comes to Linux. After all, it
| must dearly like to have a clear understanding of the areas in which its
| customers are abandoning Windows for Linux, why they are doing so, how much
| it costs and the difficulties they face. It's a case of heeding the advice of
| Chinese military strategist Sun-tzu: "Keep your friends close and your
| enemies closer."
|
| [...]
|
| The deal has a darker side to it as well. Subsidies have a habit of
| distorting the market, and in this case it's Red Hat and other competitors to
| SLES that have to struggle against the advantage Microsoft's greenbacks give
| Novell. If Microsoft tries to use the knowledge it gains from customers to
| stifle the growth of Linux in the longer term then that's altogether more
| sinister.
|
| Albeit not exactly surprising.
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http://www.serverwatch.com/eur/article.php/3768056
Recent:
Novell and Microsoft: Stop with the FUD already
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| In an e-mail interview with Ian Bruce, Novell's public relations director,
| Bruce wrote me that customers wanted the Novell/Microsoft package, in part,
| because it "provides IP (intellectual property) peace of mind for
| organizations operating in mixed source environments."
|
| It does? Since when?
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http://blogs.computerworld.com/novell_and_microsoft_stop_with_the_fud_already
Related:
Novell slapped with suit for new mini-OS
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| Astrum Inc., a software security company in Carrollton, Texas, has filed suit
| against Novell Inc. Astrum claims that Novell violated its contract regarding
| development of the mini-operating system appliance that Novell launched last
| month. Novell’s JeOS or Just enough Operating System, is a miniature version
| of the SUSE Linux Enterprise OS, which was created to help independent
| software vendors develop or deploy new SUSE-based applications easier and
| faster.
|
| Filed in U.S. District Court in Texas’ Eastern Division, the lawsuit contends
| that the two companies entered into a mutual nondisclosure agreement on Oct.
| 25, 2006, to develop the software appliance but Novell violated the agreement
| by revealing confidential information to partners and customers. Then, after
| the prototype was successfully tested in November 2007, Novell engaged rPath
| of Raleigh, N.C., the following April to create the appliances based on SUSE
| Linux Enterprise.
|
| The suit alleged breach of contract, trade secret misappropriation, common
| law misappropriation, misappropriation of ideas and promissory “estoppel,” or
| broken promises.
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http://enterpriselinuxlog.blogs.techtarget.com/2008/05/19/novell-slapped-with-suit-for-new-mini-os/
Sun’s Phipps: Novell Has a Big Problem
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| To get Sun’s side, I talked to the company’s chief open source officer, Simon
| Phipps, on Wednesday. He certainly didn’t pull any punches. In response to
| Hovsepian’s suggestion that Sun’s open source strategy — balancing open
| source and commercial interests — isn’t right, Phipps says:
|
| Novell’s got a big problem. What they’re doing is trying to sell open
| source software as if it was proprietary software. The comment that Mr.
| Hovsepian made seems to be projecting Novell’s malaise onto Sun, but we
| don’t have that malaise. We ship a completely free piece of software that
| anyone can download and use without any restrictions.
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http://www.itbusinessedge.com/blogs/osb/?p=357
A company turns the Microsoft-Novell case into an open source business model
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| Everybody seems to agree that software patents are bad: because of patent
| trolls, because the patent system is broken and overwhelmed or because they
| threaten FOSS. In short, people don’t want to pay for Linux.
|
| Yet even pro-open-source companies are making this argument that they have to
| build a patent portfolio so that to be able to defend themselves, just in
| case. Hey, even open source communities have adopted this “I’m forced too”
| stance.
|
| Therefore it was only a matter of time before an open source company decides
| patents could be used to solidify open source dual-licensing schemes. Imagine
| the deal between Microsoft and Novell erected into a widespread open source
| dual-licensing scheme. Scary.
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http://blog.milkingthegnu.org/2008/04/patent-based-op.html
Tasky, another good tool, another bad idea
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| Because it's written in C#. And guess what? Copyright (C) 2007 Novell, Inc.
|
| [...]
|
| No word about dependencies. No word about Mono. Nothing alarming in the Goals
| section.
|
| [...]
|
| Now you know. In that f--ing Novell's Hackweek they could have started a new
| project in a different way — but no, they wanted it in Mono!
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http://beranger.org/index.php?page=diary&2008/02/29/11/09/37-tasky-another-good-tool-another-
It's tiresome to stick to a few principles, or: Mono is FUD
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| As a final note, it would be nice if the new Fedora Project Leader would make
| a public statement on Mono. Heck, Max could too know whether Red Hat is not
| shipping Mono with RHEL because of patents, because it's wrong to do it,
| because they don't want to support it, or because they don't support it yet.
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http://beranger.org/index.php?page=diary&2008/02/25/08/52/11-it-s-tiresome-to-stick-to-a-few-
OpenSolaris, Gobuntu, and be careful who you kiss
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| I read the agreement between Xandros and Microsoft, and one of the excluded
| products was Mono, so Microsoft promises to not sue Xandros over their
| distribution but excluding Mono and a few other products, i.e. they reserve
| the right to sue over Mono. I wonder if this is an interesting preview of on
| what basis they want to fight the free world.
|
| Interestingly, the Novell deal seems to be different, Mono is not excluded
| from the Novell deal. So Microsoft seems to be promising not to sue Novell
| over Mono, but keeps the option open for Xandros. Weird but true.
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http://commandline.org.uk/2007/be-careful-who-you-kiss/
Miguel, Mono and Microsoft
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| is Mono's role in the deal that of a hook to make customers write
| .NET applications because they can be run on Linux - only to find
| later on that they are armless or legless because of a change in
| the .NETspecifications, a change which Microsoft decides not to
| make public?
|
| [...]
|
| And here we have an individual who decides to replicate one of
| the proprietary company's development environments - for reasons
| best known to him alone - and keeps telling people that the reason
| he's doing it is so that he can pull people over from the
| proprietary company's side to his side!!!
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http://www.itwire.com.au/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=11081&Itemid=1091
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