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____/ Chris Ahlstrom on Wednesday 17 December 2008 12:58 : \____
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> After takin' a swig o' grog, Roy Schestowitz belched out
> this bit o' wisdom:
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>> ____/ Terry Porter on Tuesday 16 December 2008 22:59 : \____
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>>> The trolls have to work for Microsoft I think, no honour, no honesty
>>> just lowlife tactics to try and win at any cost, just to make more money.
>>
>> Watch what Microsoft's little criminals and cronies do to academics whom
>> they don't like:
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>> http://www.cypherpunks.to/~peter/zdnet.html
>
> I note you also have reference to Tim Bray's Microsoft "hassles".
Yes, I've collected about 10 personal stories. Among them:
A Microsoft Slur in the OOXML Saga -- Did I Tell You or Did I Tell You? -
Updated
,----[ Quote ]
| Remember I told you I've noticed that people who don't support Microsoft's
| agenda end up the victim of smear campaigns?
|
| The New Zealand Open Source Society is reporting that an employee at
| Microsoft New Zealand recently sent an email to one of the technical bodies
| advising an NB involved in the OOXML ISO process, smearing a man's
| reputation, Matthew Holloway, apparently to undermine his technical input
| which was critical of OOXML.
`----
http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20080318151252279
Tim Bray: Life Is Complicated
,----[ Quote ]
| Those with long memories might suggest a parallel between Rick’s position and
| mine when in 1997, I was sitting on the XML Working Group and co-editing the
| spec, on a pro bono basis as an indie consultant. Netscape hired me to
| represent their interests, and when I announced this, controversy ensued.
| Which is a nice way of saying that Microsoft went berserk; tried
| unsuccessfully to get me fired as co-editor, and then launched a vicious,
| deeply personal extended attack in which they tried to destroy my career and
| took lethal action against a small struggling company because my wife worked
| there. It was a sideshow of a sideshow of the great campaign to bury Netscape
| and I’m sure the executives have forgotten; but I haven’t.
`----
http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/200x/2007/01/24/Mixup
How to Royally Annoy National Bodies
,----[ Quote ]
| Guide to future monopolists on how to alienate yourself from National Bodies:
|
| 1. Waste NBs time in reviewing monstrous draft specifications
| 2. Claim that these specs can do everything for anyone by standardising
| marketing material
| 3. If you don't get your way at a certain level, lobby the superior above.
| Dont stop! Go all the way to the head of the nation if you think you can!
| 4. Leak press stories to journalists to pressure Ministries to make a
| decision. Quick!
| 5. Try to shut down TCs if actual technical work is done revealing issues
| with your plan
| 6. Question Question Question everything (process, fairness, the system,
| members) when things dont go your way
| 7. Otherwise create another TC with friendly experts
| 8. If the NB allows new members just by paying membership fees, encourage
| your business partners to join with marketing funds. Stack-stack-stack it
| high!
| 9. Stalk decision makers, even if it means traveling around the globe with
| them
| 10. Refuse changes in the spec especially if it breaks your product which
| you released prior
| 11. Have private interviews with TC members in the guise of funding for
| their new projects/research grants/interoperability initiatives and
| conveniently talk about their position on your spec.
| 12. Get your Business Partners to write in form letters. Some don't even
| bother to change the templates
| 13. Attend TC meetings uninvited by fabricating business cards
| 14. Send Lawyers in to Technical Committee meetings who prefer not to
| engage in "high-school" debates
| 15. Make rude and inaccurate statements against TC members in public
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http://www.openmalaysiablog.com/2008/03/how-to-royally.html
Q&A: Former Mass. CIO feels 'bittersweet pride' after battles with Microsoft,
legislature
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| As CIO of Massachusetts from February to November last year, Louis
| Gutierrez had to endure most of the brunt of Microsoft Corp.'s political
| wrath over a state policy calling for the adoption of the Open Document
| Format for Office Applications, or ODF -- a rival to the software vendor's
| Office Open XML file format.
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http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9012760&source=rss_news50
,----[ Quote ]
| Quinn: Almost to a person, to anybody involved or who knows about
| the ODF issue, they attributed the story to Microsoft, right, wrong
| or otherwise. Senator Pacheco may be a bully but I do not believe he
| is disingenious and would stoop to such a tactic. Senator Pacheco and
| Secretary Galvin's office remain very heavily influenced by the
| Microsoft money and its lobbyist machine, as witnessed by their
| playbook and words, in my opinion.
`----
http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20060119232859729
Finally, My open letter on OOXML happenings in India
,----[ Quote ]
| We came to a conclusion that, from the original set of 200+ technical issues,
| some 80+ were still not addressed by the disposition. The consensus that
| emerged was that the standard could not be accepted as is, unless these are
| resolved satisfactorily.
|
| [...]
|
| vi) Our thinking was that many of the pending Indian concerns revolved
| primarily around free access to the proprietary binary formats, and around
| the worry on Microsoft patents for these.
|
| [...]
|
|
| a) BRM has failed in its basic objectives of resolution through technical
| discussion. Even in the vote, we noted that 4 P members had voted Yes, 2 O
| members also voted yes, 4 P members had voted No. We thus noticed that the
| majority to the resolution was provided by the 2 Yes votes registered by
| countries with O status. It was also noticed that that as many as 18
| countries registered an ‘abstain’ vote, and 4 more countries refused to
| register any position. In our opinion, the ISO spirit of arriving at
| the 'largest possible agreement' was clearly violated. When as many as 22
| countries participating in the BRM did not say both yes or no, and only 10
| registered affirmative or negative positions, we could not conclude
| otherwise.
|
| [...]
|
| 3. My personal anguish.
|
| My first anguish is the way the name of my colleagues and my Institution,
| along with names of several others on the committee LITD 15, have been
| maligned and tarnished by Microsoft. My second anguish is that Microsoft
| persisted in its attempt to pressurize Indian leadership to change the Indian
| stand, in spite of the fact that a due process established by the Government
| had completed its job, recommending no change in the Indian vote. These two
| things, amongst others, have caused me to lose my peace of mind and my sleep
| over last two months. I share my thoughts (which sometimes have been rather
| wild), and my anguish in this section.
|
| 3.1 My colleagues, my Institute, and some other maligned organizations
|
| I have detailed in the previous section, our approach and work that our team
| did at IIT Bombay. One of the complaints raised by Microsoft was about the
| Indian delegation itself. The delegation included Dr Sharat Chandran from my
| Institute as a member.
|
| [...]
|
| Words from the famous star-wars movie episodes perhaps most aptly describe
| the Microsoft behaviour. I believe these were “Either you are with me, or you
| are my enemy”. Perhaps in the context of Microsoft, these should be rephrased
| as “Either you are with me in exactly the way I want you to be with me, or
| you are my enemy”.
|
| [...]
|
| To illustrate how someone could react to this mudslinging by Microsoft, I
| have written a hypothetical complaint titled ‘Microsoft is looting the nation
| in alliance with Indian IT giants'. While constructing this hypothetical
| complaint, I have used what I call the ‘Microsoft patented mud-slinging
| algorithm’. I have included it as a stand alone appendix (Annexure A) to this
| letter. The purpose is to demonstrate that such complaints and counter
| complaints would lead all of us to disaster. This hypothetical counter
| complaint shows Microsoft as working at national and International forums to
| maintain and enhance its monopoly in global markets, and as attempting to
| ensure its monopoly strangle-hold on Indian desktop Market. It also paints
| INFOSYS, TCS, WIPRO and NASSCOM as willfully helping Microsoft in this evil
| design, and thus acting grossly against Indian National interests. The last
| one has hit me very hard emotionally, even though the construction was done
| by myself and it is purely hypothetical. The significant contributions made
| by these organizations to the Indian IT story are well known. The past and
| present leaders of these organizations are icons of modern India. I have the
| privilege of knowing them closely and being counted amongst their friends. I
| am sure that a large number of my countrymen will react very strongly if
| anyone was to really engage in such slander against them. I will be one
| personally eager to counter any such foolish attempts to malign these great
| names. These people and their Institutions are and must be treated with
| genuine respect.
|
| [...]
|
| If no citation from the new standard (as on 20th March 2008) is available
| from these members, should the nation now conclude that these 4 organizations
| deliberately acted against Indian national interests? If there is any
| evidence of support now found to have been given by any one of these 4
| organizations to the efforts of Microsoft to pressurize the Indian Government
| to change our vote, should the nation now conclude that there indeed is
| a ‘secret alliance with Microsoft to loot the country’?
|
| Hard questions friends, with no easy answers.
|
| In conclusion, I will reiterate that my anguish, caused by Microsoft by
| slandering Individuals and organizations represented on committee LITD 15 of
| BIS, runs very very deep.
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http://deepakphatak.blogspot.com/2008/05/this-is.html
>> They should show this to Neelie and get some tools arrested, with their
>> products embargoed.
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> Nice:
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~~ Best of wishes
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