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[News] Windows Vista Has a Lot of Catching Up to Do (with GNU/Linux)

  • Subject: [News] Windows Vista Has a Lot of Catching Up to Do (with GNU/Linux)
  • From: Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 16:44:07 +0000
  • Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy
  • Organization: Netscape / schestowitz.com
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RE: Windows Vista VS Linux  

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| # Drivers in windows vista are too difficult
| 
|     * In Linux all my devices “just worked”.
|     * After a clean install of Vista, nothing works. You then have to hunt 
|       down drivers. 
|     * Driver updates from windows update made my laptop less stable, not more 
|       stable 
| 
| [...]
| 
| This is a big one. I hated Outlook, it was slow, buggy and bizarre. I 
| dreadfully missed Konsole, bash, sed, grep, awk, etc. All my attempts at 
| finding alternatives and solutions (like cygwin… which fails in Vista) were 
| failures. But I don’t like giving up.   
| 
| For Outlook, I switched to Thunderbird and Lightning.
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http://blog.indigio.com/index.php/2008/02/24/re-windows-vista-vs-linux/

Another good one (Windows XP isn't much better than Vista):

First impressions of Sidux, the Debian based Linux distro

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| Over the years, I had grown tired of the way Windows operated.  I was always 
| having to update my operating system and keep everything locked down with 
| antivirus and spyware prevention software.  All of this just to make sure the 
| computer would work the way it should work.  Not only that, but Windows 
| itself and the way it operates just seemed to get on my nerves.  It does 
| things like changing drive letters on a USB drive for no apparent reason.  
| For that matter, a lot of things Windows does is for no apparent reason.  
| That gets very old, very quick.       
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http://myviewmytake.wordpress.com/2008/02/21/first-impressions-of-sidux-the-debian-based-linux-distro/


Related:

Vista to Ubuntu (100%)

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| I had enough with eating crap with Vista. My last line of patience warned off 
| when I happened to wait about 5 seconds when changing from one MS Doc file to 
| another and also happened that I was running with time to finish a project 
| report. No, I’m not running on 256 ram, it’s 1 GB and this kind of a time 
| wastage is totally unacceptable. You may ask why I put up with Vista in the 
| first place. That’s thanks to HP’s decision to embrace Vista so my laptop was 
| pre-built with Vista and no chance to downgrade because there are no drivers. 
| So where to go now ? Easy….Gutsy.       
| 
| [...]
| 
| But my worries were groundless as Wine now supports Macromedia 8 series like 
| a babe. Dreamweaver, Fireworks and Flash all works perfectly with Wine - 
| installation to Execution. Another great thing with Gutsy is that my Broadcom 
| network card support is inbuilt and with some additional applications I can 
| search networks and connect to them like a charm. Also I’m using AWN manager 
| to manage desktop (here is a great article on desktop styling - thanks to 
| Lakshan) and now it looks like a hybrid between Leopard and Vista. So what 
| else I can ask for ?       
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http://luckycala.wordpress.com/2007/12/16/vista-to-ubuntu-100/


Prediction: Linux will Eat Microsoft on Most Desktops

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| Now, compare that to a $500.00 desktop running Linux and OpenSource 
| applicaitons. That would be about $50,000. The difference? Two or three 
| employees, a huge bonus, a couple of vehicles, whatever. Not small.   
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http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2007/12/prediction_linux_will_eat_micr.php


Linux is about to take over the low end of PCs

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| Opinion -- Sometimes, several unrelated changes come to a head at the same 
| time, with a result no one could have predicted. The PC market is at such a 
| tipping point right now and the result will be millions of Linux-powered PCs 
| in users' hands.   
| 
| [...]
| 
| Microsoft will fight this trend tooth and nail. It will cut prices to the 
| point where it'll be bleeding ink on some of its product lines. And Windows 
| XP is going to stick around much longer than Microsoft ever wanted it to. 
| Still, it won't be enough. By attacking from the bottom, where Microsoft can 
| no longer successfully compete, Linux will finally cut itself a large slice 
| of the desktop market pie.      
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http://www.desktoplinux.com/news/NS2414535067.html


Ubuntu Linux vs Windows Vista: The Desktop Battle

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| It’s easy these days to buy either a Vista or Ubuntu laptop or Desktop. Dell 
| supports both of them, as one possible choice. 
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http://polishlinux.org/linux/ubuntu/ubuntu-linux-vs-windows-vista-the-desktop-battle/


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|   Message-ID:   <jngne4-fv3.ln1@xxxxxxxxxx>
|   From:        "[H]omer" <spam@xxxxxxx>
|   Newsgroups:   comp.os.linux.advocacy
|   Subject:      Re: Debian GNU/Linux 4.0 (etch) released
|   Date:         Sun, 08 Apr 2007 17:09:54 +0100
| 
| > http://www.debian.org/News/2007/20070408
| 
| Here's some interesting comparisons between Debian Etch and Vista:
| 
| Project Life-cycle:
|  . Debian - 1.75 years (Etch)
|  . Vista  - 5.50 years
| 
| Supported Architectures:
|  . Debian - Sparc, Alpha, PowerPC, i386, ia64, PA-RISC, MIPS, ARM, IBM
|             S/390, AMD64 and Intel EM64T. (Older custom versions for the
|             Motorola MC68K series)
|  . Vista  - Technically ... none, since it doesn't really work.
| 
| Available Desktop Environments / Window Managers:
|  . Debian - 3D-Desktop, 4dwm, 5Dwm, 9wm, aewm, AfterStep, amiwm,
|             Blackbox, Compiz/Beryl, CTWM, dwm, EDE (Equinox),
|             Enlightenment, EvilPoison, evilwm, Fluxbox, foXdesktop,
|             FVWM, FVWM95, FVWM-Crystal, Gnome, hackedbox, HaZe, IceWM,
|             Ion, JD4X (Java Desktop), JWM, Kahakai, KDE, KWin, Larswm,
|             Luminocity, LWM, Matchbox, Metacity, Metisse, MWM (Motif),
|             OLWM/OLVWM, Openbox, Orion, Oroborus, PekWM, PLWM, PWM,
|             Qvwm, ratpoison, ROX, Sawfish, Scwm, Stumpwm, swm, The GREAT
|             Desktop, TrsWM, twm, UDE, uwm, Waimea, WindowLab, Window
|             Maker, wm2, WMI, wmii, XD640, XFCE, Xfwm, XPde, XPwm, XWEM
| . Vista   - Aero
| 
| Price:
|  . Debian -   £0.00
|  . Vista  - £187.48 (Home Premium - a.k.a. The "real" version) [Amazon]
| 
| License:
|  . Debian - Mainly GPL/LGPL. Full sources available at no cost.
|  . Vista  - Proprietary. SDKs only. (Limited Sources available to select
|             partners and government agencies).
| 
| Role/Deployment:
|  . Debian - Server, Desktop, Media Centre, Office, Cluster /
|             Supercomputing, Any Purpose.
|  . Vista  - Experimental Desktop, Toy, Practical Joke.
| 
| Summary:
|  . Debian - "Support for Debian is among the most complete you can find
|              in the open source world. Debian is traditionally a
|              distribution of developers that connect with each other and
|              with users via email or IRC. Developers respond to bug
|              reports promptly. Several mailing lists in all supported
|              languages have high traffic and people that like to help.
|              If you're in a hurry, you can join the #debian IRC channel
|              on the freenode network. You can even pay for support if
|              you want to; debian.org has a list of companies that will
|              take your money and answer your questions.
| 
|              Debian is the most truly community-driven distribution,
|              proud of its GNU name. It supports lots of platforms, and
|              its software quality assurance is excellent. Security flaws
|              are fixed in the Etch repositories quickly. With mirrors
|              all around the world, installation of new packages is
|              quick. Even if any single Linux company disappears, Debian
|              will remain intact -- as my desktop OS."
|               - http://tinyurl.com/yqg3cq (newsforge.com)
| 
|  . Vista  -  "I found [Vista] to be a dangerously unstable operating
|               system, which has caused me to lose data ... unfortunately
|               this product is unfit for any user.
|                - http://tinyurl.com/3bpfs2 (hardocp.com)
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Windows Vista: Sold but not deployed

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| Microsoft says it remains happy with enterprise sales of Vista -- however, 
| the software behemoth acknowledges that many businesses which have bought 
| Vista licences are yet to deploy the software.  
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http://www.zdnet.com.au/news/software/soa/Windows-Vista-Sold-but-not-deployed/0,130061733,339284495,00.htm


Acer: PC industry 'disappointed' with Vista

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| Acer president Gianfranco Lanci became the first major PC manufacturer to 
| openly attack Microsoft over the Windows Vista operating system in the 
| Financial Times Deutschland on Monday.  
|
| Lanci said the operating system was riddled with problems and gave users and 
| businesses no reason to buy a new PC, according to the report. Taiwan-based 
| Acer is the world's fourth-largest PC manufacturer, after HP, Dell and 
| Lenovo. 
|
| "The whole industry is disappointed with Windows Vista," Lanci said. 
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http://www.techworld.com/opsys/news/index.cfm?RSS&NewsID=9579


Ugly view mars Windows Vista birthday

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| According to latest data from NPD, Microsoft is shipping fewer boxed copies 
| of Windows Vista than it did Windows XP at the same point in the operating 
| systems' lifecycles.  
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http://www.regdeveloper.co.uk/2007/11/30/vista_birthday/


The Vista Death Watch

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| Microsoft has extended the life of Windows XP because Vista has simply not 
| shown any life in the market. We have to begin to ask ourselves if we are 
| really looking at Windows Me/2007, destined to be a disdained flop. By all 
| estimates the number of Vista installations hovers around the number of Macs 
| in use.    
| 
| How did this happen? And what’s going to happen next? Does Microsoft have a 
| Plan B? A number of possibilities come to mind, and these things must be 
| considered by the company itself.   
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http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2704,2209837,00.asp?kc=PCRSS03079TX1K0000584


Lenovo offers downgrade from Windows Vista to Windows XP

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| My colleague Stian just sent me this interesting link regarding my 
| experiences with Windows Vista. Since I assume the link will NOT have the 
| visual appearence it has right now for very many more hours (days) I've 
| created a screenshot of how it looked when I went into the site.   
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http://jaxed.org/lenovo-offers-downgrade-from-windows-vista-to-windows-xp.blog


Windows Vista kicked out of Olympics PCs

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| Microsoft's latest version of Windows is too risky to implement for the 
| important computers managing the 2008 Olympic summer games in Beijing, said 
| the event's computer supplier and sponsor Lenovo.  
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http://www.electronista.com/articles/07/08/08/no.vista.on.olympic.pcs/


DSG continues retailer woes

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| DSG, the company formerly known as Dixons, became the latest British retailer 
| to report a drop in profits for the summer months today. But it wasn’t all 
| down to the rotten weather – this time it was also Microsoft’s fault.  
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http://www.managementtoday.co.uk/newsalerts/article/748756/dsg-continues-retailer-woes/


Dell casts doubts on Vista

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| Dell today revealed that it will restore the option to use Windows XP on
| some of its home systems, marking a potentially damaging blow to
| Microsoft's hopes for the newer Windows Vista.
| 
| [...]
| 
| While a popular request through the company's IdeaStorm website, the
| choice was substantially outnumbered by requests for pre-installed
| Linux, US-based technical support, and other features -- pointing to a 
| larger general demand for the change. The turnaround may be a reflection of 
| an overall backlash against Vista, observed IDC analyst Richard Shim.
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http://www.macnn.com/articles/07/04/19/dell.casts.doubts.on.vista/

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