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Re: [News] Distnguishing Between the Linux Kernel and Operating Systems

____/ The Ghost In The Machine on Thursday 03 January 2008 17:13 : \____

> In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Roy Schestowitz
> <newsgroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>  wrote
> on Thu, 03 Jan 2008 01:12:03 +0000
> <3138223.YziAjgUtT1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
>> ____/ The Ghost In The Machine on Wednesday 02 January 2008 16:36 : \____
>>
>>> In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Roy Schestowitz
>>> <newsgroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>  wrote
>>> on Sat, 29 Dec 2007 13:08:35 +0000
>>> <2578175.RYbp0OoQRS@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
>>>> Linux is Not an Operating System
>>>>
>>>> ,----[ Quote ]
>>>> | I've often discussed about this topic with (tech savy) friends and I
>>>> | always stick to my point that Linux is not an operating system...
>>>> `----
>>>>
>>>> http://www.masuran.org/2007/12/28/linux-is-not-an-operating-system/
>>> 
>>> I suppose this makes some sense, but really, if one wants
>>> to talk about operating systems, let's discuss the entire
>>> system, hardware and all.  (A successful C2 certification
>>> effort for NT did.)
>>> 
>>> I'll admit to wondering whether/how much of the PCI PC
>>> has been standardized at all, though, but clearly Ubuntu
>>> and other such will run on a certain class of hardware
>>> (not necessarily restricted to x86).
>>> 
>>> It's nice to see, though, that someone has finally noticed
>>> outside of our corner of Usenet that the modern PC is
>>> inherently multilayered (in both Windows and Linux's cases,
>>> although with Windows the layers are far muddier for most).
>>> 
>>> [rest snipped for brevity]
>>
>> When the layers are bundled togther in binary form,
>> then the layering ceases to have relevance. Don't you agree?
> 
> Depends on the problem one is attempting.  Of course with
> Windows one gets a layering similar to (but not quite as
> open as, from a source standpoint) a modern GNU/Linux/X
> system, but this layering is not under the sysadmin's control.
> 
>>
>> With Linux, you have the sugar, the chocolate, the cherries
>> and also the full cake. With Windows or Mac OS, all you get
>> is cake (although Apple pushes some sugar... errr... code
>> out to the Darwinists).
>>
> 
> Bear also in mind one can replace cake with steak,
> cherries with bananas, oranges, kiwi fruit, walnuts,
> potatoes, or celery sticks, and the chocolate can be
> replaced with strawberry frosting, custard, gelatin, lard,
> or even concrete.

Yeah. I sure hope that all the brown in Ubuntu is chocolate and not something
else. ;-)
 
> In the food area, this verges on the ridiculous (but
> then this *is* an analogy), but in Linux, it all works
> reasonably well together, with some care.

We're all in the same kitchen, so ingredients (packages) are made which enjoy a
symbiotic relationship. 

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