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[News] [Rival] Burton Group Has Possible Track Record of Microsoft Shilling

  • Subject: [News] [Rival] Burton Group Has Possible Track Record of Microsoft Shilling
  • From: Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 08:29:41 +0000
  • Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy
  • Organization: Netscape / schestowitz.com
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Report fuels OpenOffice vs. OOXML debate

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| OpenOffice.org has dismissed an analyst report from Burton Group which claims 
| that Microsoft's Office Open XML document format is preferable to the 
| OpenDocument Format.  
| 
| [...]
| 
| Burton Group also attracted controversy in August 2007 when it warned 
| businesses against the use of Google Apps, another free software competitor 
| to Microsoft Office.  
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http://news.zdnet.com/2100-3513_22-6226607.html


Yesterday:

OOXML: the propaganda war has begun

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| The arguments put forward by the Burton group do not hold much water - OOXML 
| is not anti-competitive, it will become more widespread in use (due to the 
| widespread use of Microsoft Office), ODF is driven by anti-Microsoft 
| sentiment more than any technical merit, etc. Sun Microsystems comes in for 
| quite a bit of bashing.    
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http://www.itwire.com/content/view/16153/1090/


Related:

OOXML Questions Microsoft Cannot Answer in Geneva

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| At Left: Highly respected Martin Bryan. As outgoing Conveyor of ISO/IEC 
| JTC1/SC34 WG1 he accused MS of stacking his group and said, “The days of open 
| standards development are fast disappearing. Instead we are 
| getting ’standardization by corporation,’ something I have been fighting 
| against for the 20 years I have served on ISO committees.”    
| 
| The trend is that Microsoft is opening up the boring legacy bits of OOXML, in 
| stupefying detail, while neglecting to document the pieces actually needed 
| for interoperability at a competitive level, like macros, scripting, 
| encryption, etc. In essence, Microsoft is opening up and releasing the file 
| format information that competitors like OpenOffice.org have already figured 
| out on their own, while still at the same time restricting access to the 
| information needed to compete. And the more MS realizes it has to open up the 
| specification, deprecate and modernize OOXML, what do you get? You get XML. 
| XML is XML. Strip out the non-XML garbage from OOXML and you will have the 
| OpenDocument Format.         
| 
| [...]
| 
| We need for MICROSOFT TO ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS. Rather than hiding all the 
| information we need and trying to cloak OOXML as ODF, we ask Microsoft to 
| please get off the sinking ship, collaborate with the global community (which 
| will welcome Microsoft) and help develop one universal file format for all.   
| Long term, Microsoft can only benefit from cooperating with the market!
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http://www.fanaticattack.com/2008/ooxml-questions-microsoft-cannot-answer-in-geneva.html


What Will and Won't Be Discussed at February's BRM on MSOOXML

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| So if you had concerns about Microsoft's patent policy, forgeddaboudit. 
| It's been magically erased, and any comments are out of order.
| 
| [...]
| 
| They have chosen a room that can seat only 120 people for reasons unknown, so 
| there may not be room for all the delegates. Let me guess. The head of the  
| delegation is a Microsoft guy, and the ones who can't fit in the room are the 
| ones who have issues with the proposed format? You think? Hey, some of us 
| remember the games that were played already over rooms too small for IBM and 
| Sun.    
| 
| This is starting to look really, really bad. At a minimum, you have to say 
| this is the very opposite of an open process. I can't help but notice too 
| that Brown lists Rick Jelliffe's as one of the "cool blogs" he recommends on 
| Brown's blog. I think that is what novelists would call foreshadowing.   
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http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20071211055139790


Portugal will send Microsoft to the BRM

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| Microsoft, as president of the Portuguese Technical Committee, is already 
| controlling who will be at the BRM for Portugal. The Head of Delegation will 
| be... Microsoft!  
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http://www.noooxml.org/forum/t-27501/portugal-will-send-microsoft-to-the-brm


IBM is still locked out of the Portuguese OOXML meeting

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| In spite of various communications, we [IBM] are still locked out and will 
| not be allowed to participate. Microsoft will be there, as well as a special 
| Microsoft guest, as will various Microsoft business partners, and others.  
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http://www.sutor.com/newsite/blog-open/?p=1755


Microsoft's Stephen McGibbon to represent Ireland at the BRM?

,----[ Quote ]
| There are rumors circulating in Ireland that Microsoft's Stephen McGibbon 
| might be part of the Irish delegation to attend the BRM in Geneva. Microsoft 
| is already controlling the Portuguese delegation, you can expect that they 
| will control half of the table at Geneva. O'MyGod!   
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http://www.noooxml.org/forum/t-29606/microsoft-s-stephen-mcgibbon-to-represent-ireland-at-the-brm


Opinion: Einstein's definition of insanity...

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| But ISO standards have a much more political dimension to them than Internet 
| (IETF) or World Wide Web Consortium (W3C) standards. Every country can vote,  
| although not all chose to do so. Over the past few weeks, some strange and 
| rather irregular national positions have come to light. My favourites were 
| Cuba voting "Yes" to the fast-tracking of OOXML, even though Microsoft is 
| prohibited by the US Government from selling any software on the island that 
| might even be able to read and write the new format, and Azerbaijan's "Yes" 
| vote, even though OOXML as defined isn't able to express a Web URL address in 
| Azeri, their official language.       
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http://www.linuxformat.co.uk/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=632


Corrupt countries were more likely to support the OOXML document format

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| Is this just a random coincidence? The median of the CPI index of the above 
| mentioned 70 countries is 3.95. Of the most corrupted half (CPI index less 
| than 3.95) 23 or 77% voted for approval (approval or approval with comments) 
| and 7 or 23% for disapproval; 5 abstained. Of the least corrupted half (CPI 
| index more than 3.95) 13 or 54% voted for approval and 11 or 46% voted for 
| disapproval; 11 abstained - see the table below.      
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http://www.effi.org/blog/kai-2007-09-05.en.html


Microsoft accused of more OOXML standards fiddling 

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| However the 11 new countries are refusing to say how they will vote. These 
| include Cote d'Ivoire, Cyprus, Ecuador, Jamaica, Lebanon, Malta, Pakistan, 
| Trinidad and Tobago, Turkey, Uruguay and Venezuela. Most people seem to think 
| that these have been put there by Vole to make sure the standard gets pushed 
| through.    
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http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=42106

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