On 2008-01-15, Hadron <hadronquark@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> ml2mst <ml2mst@xxxxxxxxx> writes:
>
>> Roy Schestowitz schreef:
>>> ____/ plenty900@xxxxxxxxx on Tuesday 15 January 2008 17:15 : \____
>>>
>>>> I am not convinced that truly cool things
>>>> are happening any longer, because I am not
>>>> seeing barriers being broken through at least
>>>> in the area of software. Indeed, nor in hardware.
>>>> Everyone involved in Linux seems to be using
>>>> a hot-rod system that offers no barriers.
>>>> Where is the cool?
>>>
>>> Where is the cool in Mac OS? Or in Windows (where is the "Wow")? Are you using
>>> an operating system to accomplish a task through applications? Or is it more
>>> like a gaming console that you invite friends over to brag about in the living
>>> room? Linux just works. It also has lots of fancy eye candy, sound/ear candy
>>> (PulseAudio) and other 'toys', but few people require them. Where is the cool
>>> in cars? Are you trying to get to places or are you just pumping up the volume
>>> and whistling at girls on the pavement?
>>>
>> I'm afraid, here we have yet another astroturfer (all trough I've might
>> misinterpreted it).
>>
>> First of all Linus is not a hobbyist. At the time he created Linux, he
>> was a student in computer science.
>>
>> Beside that, the use of "hobbyists" in this message is pretty insulting,
>> since many hobbyists are very well educated, trough "self education".
>> Such in contrast to the hordes of "clickety click Windrones" that don't
>> know a piece of shite about computers.
>
> So the people who write the modern games, or the engineering simulation
The people that "write the modern games" will be first people to
rip Windows a new one. They writer for Windows because it has the
lion's share of the market. Many find Linux quite cool. Very few of
them even notice Apple.
> cad/cam sw, the .net stuff etc,etc,etc,etc don't know about computers
> because they use Windows eh? You're seriously in need of some fresh air
> old chap.
.net programmers aren't exactly the brightest crayons in the box.
>
>>
>> Talented hobbyists flocked to GNU/Linux in the 1990's, simply because
>> they demand to control their machines, on the other hand, Windows users
>> are controlled by their Operating System, which is the worst scenario in
>> the eyes of someone, who actually controlled his or her machines for
>> decades.
>
> No you moron. Talented people with REAL jobs wrote REAL SW for REAL
> companies. They were not "limited" by the OS because the OS was merely
> the OS - they used the APIs to write quality and best selling SW to meet
> the developing IT needs of REAL businesses in the REAL world.
There are some business gurus that are honest and willing enough
to admit that best selling != best.
[deletia]
Geeks are people that want to understand what's going on and
use that to empower themselves. It's not merely limited to computers.
Understanding the electronic nature of the task doesn't alter it's
basic conceptual characteristics is very useful and quite often exploited
for the benefit of people who "do serious things" with "best selling type
software".
It's the ideas, not the buttons in front of them.
Once upon a time even Apple users understood that.
--
It is not true that Microsoft doesn't innovate.
They brought us the email virus.
In my Atari days, such a notion would have |||
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