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[News] [Rival] Microsoft Lies About IBM to Promote OOXML

  • Subject: [News] [Rival] Microsoft Lies About IBM to Promote OOXML
  • From: Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 07:03:27 +0000
  • Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy
  • Organization: Netscape / schestowitz.com
  • User-agent: KNode/0.10.4
The Standard Trolls

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| It is hard to resolve the pecking order of posters in the Microsoft blogger 
| echo chamber. So let's just remark that all the usual suspects assisted in 
| this one: Doug Mahugh, Stephen McGibbon, Oliver Bell, Gray Knowlton, etc. Mix 
| together, shake, repeat, turn the crank and presto! Out comes news.   
| 
| [...]
| 
| By analogy to patent trolls, what we're seeing here is the behavior of a 
| standards troll -- defining a conformance clause so vague that everything in 
| the world is considered to support it, and then searching through 
| competitor's web sites in hopes of finding some place where they stumbled 
| into supporting it, and then trying to extract some advantage from it.    
| 
| The point should be to look for examples of where OOXML is supported to the 
| highest degree, to point out the best examples of high-fidelity interchange 
| that your standard allowed. You would think that with so many people at 
| Microsoft with "interoperability" in their job titles, that this would be 
| obvious. I guess not. But don't be sad. You can always count 
| on "supportadmin3" to cheer you up!!!     
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http://www.robweir.com/blog/2008/01/standard-trolls.html


Related:

Wishful Spinning

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| OOXML gets adopted. More and more projects are started. Let's see which of 
| these would survive without funding. Meanwhile a spin factory sends out 
| success stories that most bloggers find worthless to discuss. It is possible 
| to get the Krauts on board that are supposed to review OOXML but would OOXML 
| survive a review by the crowds?    
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http://www.noooxml.org/forum/t-35292/wishful-spinning


OOXML Questions Microsoft Cannot Answer in Geneva

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| At Left: Highly respected Martin Bryan. As outgoing Conveyor of ISO/IEC 
| JTC1/SC34 WG1 he accused MS of stacking his group and said, “The days of open 
| standards development are fast disappearing. Instead we are 
| getting ’standardization by corporation,’ something I have been fighting 
| against for the 20 years I have served on ISO committees.”    
| 
| The trend is that Microsoft is opening up the boring legacy bits of OOXML, in 
| stupefying detail, while neglecting to document the pieces actually needed 
| for interoperability at a competitive level, like macros, scripting, 
| encryption, etc. In essence, Microsoft is opening up and releasing the file 
| format information that competitors like OpenOffice.org have already figured 
| out on their own, while still at the same time restricting access to the 
| information needed to compete. And the more MS realizes it has to open up the 
| specification, deprecate and modernize OOXML, what do you get? You get XML. 
| XML is XML. Strip out the non-XML garbage from OOXML and you will have the 
| OpenDocument Format.         
| 
| [...]
| 
| We need for MICROSOFT TO ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS. Rather than hiding all the 
| information we need and trying to cloak OOXML as ODF, we ask Microsoft to 
| please get off the sinking ship, collaborate with the global community (which 
| will welcome Microsoft) and help develop one universal file format for all.   
| Long term, Microsoft can only benefit from cooperating with the market!
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http://www.fanaticattack.com/2008/ooxml-questions-microsoft-cannot-answer-in-geneva.html


What Will and Won't Be Discussed at February's BRM on MSOOXML

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| So if you had concerns about Microsoft's patent policy, forgeddaboudit. 
| It's been magically erased, and any comments are out of order.
| 
| [...]
| 
| They have chosen a room that can seat only 120 people for reasons unknown, so 
| there may not be room for all the delegates. Let me guess. The head of the  
| delegation is a Microsoft guy, and the ones who can't fit in the room are the 
| ones who have issues with the proposed format? You think? Hey, some of us 
| remember the games that were played already over rooms too small for IBM and 
| Sun.    
| 
| This is starting to look really, really bad. At a minimum, you have to say 
| this is the very opposite of an open process. I can't help but notice too 
| that Brown lists Rick Jelliffe's as one of the "cool blogs" he recommends on 
| Brown's blog. I think that is what novelists would call foreshadowing.   
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http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20071211055139790


Corrupt countries were more likely to support the OOXML document format

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| Is this just a random coincidence? The median of the CPI index of the above 
| mentioned 70 countries is 3.95. Of the most corrupted half (CPI index less 
| than 3.95) 23 or 77% voted for approval (approval or approval with comments) 
| and 7 or 23% for disapproval; 5 abstained. Of the least corrupted half (CPI 
| index more than 3.95) 13 or 54% voted for approval and 11 or 46% voted for 
| disapproval; 11 abstained - see the table below.      
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http://www.effi.org/blog/kai-2007-09-05.en.html


Microsoft accused of more OOXML standards fiddling 

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| However the 11 new countries are refusing to say how they will vote. These 
| include Cote d'Ivoire, Cyprus, Ecuador, Jamaica, Lebanon, Malta, Pakistan, 
| Trinidad and Tobago, Turkey, Uruguay and Venezuela. Most people seem to think 
| that these have been put there by Vole to make sure the standard gets pushed 
| through.    
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http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=42106

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