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SC34 meeting next week: yet another stuffed committee?
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| Next week on Monday and Tuesday there will be an SC34 meeting, where the
| maintenance of the inexistant DIS29500 specification will be discussed.
| Surprise, half of the seats will be occupied by Microsoft and ECMA:
| ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
|
| Adam Farquhar (Ecma)
| Alex Brown (UK)
| Benjamin Henrion (BE)
| Brett Roberts (NZ)
| Dave Welsh (US)
| Doug Mahugh (Ecma)
| Francis Cave (GB)
| Isabelle Valet-Harper (Ecma)
| Istvan Sebestyen (Ecma)
| Jasper Hedegaard Bojsen (DK)
| Jean Paoli (Ecma)
| Jean Stride (GB)
| Jesper Lund Stocholm (DK)
| Jirka Kosek (CZ)
| Keld Simonsen (NO)
| Ken Holman (CA)
| Kimmo Bergius (FI)
| Manu Setälä (FI)
| Michiel Leenaars (NL)
| Murata Makoto (JP)
| Patrick Durusau (US)
| Pia Elleby Lange (DK)
| Rex Jaeschke (Ecma)
| Shahzad Rana (NO)
| Wemba Opota (CI)
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http://www.noooxml.org/forum/t-75107/sc34-meeting-next-week:yet-another-stuffed-committee
Some of them, Jesper Lund Stocholm for instance, are Microsoft partners and
fans. This is a joke, right?
Adam Farquhar... isn't he also with Microsoft and the British Library? This is
ridiculous. Some of these people sell Microsoft products for a living.
Doug Mahugh at ECMA? He works for Microsoft. What about Jan Van Der Beld, who
changed directives 'on the fly' especially for Microsoft and then left ECMA to
join a Microsoft lobbying arm, CompTIA? ECMA too is paid by Microsoft.
Watch the Corruption Club reuniting for $$$! Live demo.
Recent:
OpenXML: Finally the hidden agenda is emerging
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| Not so long ago, the major evidence for me was the number of countries that
| changed their votes in the last days OpenXML voting, signaling a major
| political agreement for the approval of standard, but now, a few months later
| more strange thing is happening.
|
| The last of them is that we in Brazil, and all other NBs, will have to cast
| until July 29, our vote regarding a proposal for a “new work item” at SC34,
| which deals with the translation between ODF and OpenXML documents. If this
| proposal is approved, it will be generated by SC34, trough an “accelerated
| process”, a technical report on the subject.
|
| I think this discussion is really natural, but we need to observe a simple
| detail: “The approval of OpenXML as an international standard is under
| appeal !!!”.
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http://homembit.com/2008/07/openxml-finally-the-hidden-agenda-is-emerging.html
Toy Soldiers
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| One example is the proposals in SC34 to create a new project to create a
| Technical Report on translating between ODF 1.0 and OOXML 1.0. This might
| have made sense at some point in the past. But this proposal seems out of
| place now.
|
| Consider:
|
| 1. No one supports ODF 1.0 today. All of the major vendors have moved on
| to ODF 1.1, and will be moving on to ODF 1.2 soon.
| 2. No one supports OOXML 1.0 today, not even Microsoft.
| 3. No one supports interoperability via translation, not Sun in their
| Plugin, not Novell in their OOXML support, and not Microsoft in their
| announced ODF support in Office 2007 SP2.
|
| [...]
|
| Given the leisure to do the job right, my bet is on Microsoft. Everyone knows
| it for what it is now. There is no longer need for elaborate attempts to
| disguise the fact that OOXML is and will remain a Microsoft-only standard.
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http://www.robweir.com/blog/2008/07/toy-soliders.html
South Africa appeals against OOXML, call your Standards Body now!
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| The South African Standards Body SABS have lodged an appeal at ISO against
| the awful fast-track process of DIS29500, or Microsoft Office OpenXML. Please
| call your national Standards Body and ask them to support this complain. You
| have only 7 days because the deadline is 30 May, 2 months after the ISO vote.
|
| Steve Pepper, being so disgused about the intervention of a Norwegian
| bureaucrat reverting the decision of the Norwegian Technical Committee, is
| pointing at the fact that this person is also member of the ISO Technical
| Management Board (TMB), who will decide on the future of this appeal. I hope
| we will have some transparency on who is deciding what inside ISO on this
| appeal. It is time for ISO to clean up its stables, they have not been
| cleaned for several years, and they are getting dirty and smelly.
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http://www.noooxml.org/forum/t-61468/south-africa-appeals-against-ooxml-call-your-standards-body-now
Related:
ISO Fantasy
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| What OOXML Is · The ISO process, brutal and corrupt as it was, has been
| covered to death by everyone. Its output, soon to be known as ISO/IEC 29500,
| differs from ECMA-376 in two ways. ¶
|
| [...]
|
| What Microsoft really wanted was that ISO stamp of approval to use as a
| marketing tool. And just like your mother told you, when they get what they
| want and have their way with you, they’re probably not gonna call you in the
| morning.
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http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/200x/2008/04/15/OOXML
Computer experts stage street protest in Oslo against Microsoft document format
as standard
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| OSLO, Norway: Roughly 60 data experts staged a rare and noisy street
| demonstration in downtown Oslo on Wednesday to protest the adoption of
| Microsoft Corp.'s document format as an international standard and against
| Norway voting for the move.
|
| [...]
|
| He claimed the committee ignored the advice of the vast majority of the
| Nordic nation's software experts, was pressured by Microsoft and
| displayed "scandalous behavior."
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http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2008/04/09/business/EU-TEC-Norway-Digital-Demonstration.php
OOXML triggers demonstration in Norway: "Let's throw OOXML out of ISO"
http://www.noooxml.org/forum/t-52412/ooxml-triggers-demonstration-in-norway:let-s-throw-ooxml-out-of-iso
Demonstration outside ISO conference
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| Steve Pepper, the former Chairman of the Norwegian committee responsible for
| deciding the Norwegian vote on OOXML, is calling for a demonstration to take
| place outside the building where SC34, the ISO committee that has been landed
| with OOXML, is holding its spring plenary.
|
| The demonstration will take place outside Håndverkeren, Rosenkrantzgate 7,
| Oslo, Norway, on Wednesday April 9 at 12.00. Among the slogans are:
|
| * No to ISO approval of OOXML!
| * Defend the integrity of ISO!
| * Microsoft: Support ODF!
| * Ecma: Withdraw OOXML!
| * Norway must say no to OOXML!
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http://blogs.freecode.no/isene/2008/04/07/demonstration-outside-iso-conference/
Shenanigans Alleged on Road to OOXML Vote
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| The events leading up to the ISO's decision on OOXML can best be described as
| strange.
|
| Take the case of KT 182, the Polish technical committee responsible for the
| OOXML standardization process, as described on Groklaw: Chairperson Elzbieta
| Andrukiewicz was instructed that KT 182 should abstain from voting if a
| consensus was not achieved. Well, it wasn't, and she said the members who
| were absent could vote by e-mail E-Mail Marketing Software - Free Trial.
| Click Here. -- but if they didn't vote, she'd take their non-response as a
| yes.
|
| Later, when presenting the results of the ballot resolution, she showed a
| slide that claimed 98 percent of the OOXML issues had been resolved during
| the KT 182 meeting.
|
| When reminded this wasn't true, and told that the author of the PowerPoint
| file was Paul Pesch, platform strategy manager at Microsoft Netherlands, she
| threatened to sue anyone who repeated the assertion that Pesch was the
| author.
|
| That slide had been shown at another meeting, and one of the Brazilian
| delegates had complained about it.
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http://www.linuxinsider.com/rsstory/62400.html
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