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Re: [News] GNOME 2.30 Will be GNOME 3.0 (Version # Bump)

* Tom Shelton peremptorily fired off this memo:

> On 2008-07-11, Linonut <linonut@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> * Homer peremptorily fired off this memo:
>>
>>> So I've reached the conclusion that it'd be a waste of time to fork
>>> certain project at this point, especially as there are so many other
>>> choices out their.
>>>
>>> My next round of distro upgrades will see me move to KDE. Permanently.
>>
>> I'm already on fluxbox, but, like XFce, will keep using GTK.  I wonder
>> what Stallman thinks of all this.
>
> For, hell's sake - the FSF has there own .NET implementation...  DotGNU.  What
> can he say?

This, for example, on C#:

   http://www.fsfeurope.org/documents/rms-fs-2006-03-09.en.html

   Q1: I'm interested in hearing your opinion on the relationship between
       Mono and GNOME.

   Richard Stallman: Mono is a free implementation of Microsoft's language
       C#. Microsoft has declared itself our enemy and we know that
       Microsoft is getting patents on some features of C#. So I think
       it's dangerous to use C#, and it may be dangerous to use Mono.
       There's nothing wrong with Mono. Mono is a free implementation of
       a language that users use. It's good to provide free
       implementations. We should have free implementations of every
       language. But, depending on it is dangerous, and we better not do
       that. 

Although it does sound like he wants to avoid a Microsoft .NET:

   http://lwn.net/2002/features/rms.php3

   We have done a lot to improve GNU and GNU/Linux since then, such as
   developing GNOME, rewriting GNU libc to support GNU/Linux, and
   funding the start of Debian. More of this remains to be done: for
   instance, DotGNU aims to extend GNU facilities in a direction that
   many users are likely to want; GNU Classpath and GCJ are developing a
   free platform for running Java programs, while DotGNU is working to
   replace Microsoft.NET.

Looks like Microsoft is taking its usual cavalier attitude towards
standards:

   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DotGNU

   The main goal of the DotGNU project and the Microsoft Shared Source
   CLI (Rotor) code base is to provide a class library that is 100%
   Common Language Specification compliant. In contrast, the main goal
   of another free software/open source CLI implementation, the Mono
   Project, is to provide 100% compatible class libraries for both the
   CLS specification and with the class library currently released by
   Microsoft for their other proprietary version of .NET, which the
   DotGNU project claims is not currently fully ECMA CLS compliant.

Interestingly enough, the FSF gives dotGNU a high priority!

   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Priority_Free_Software_Projects#High_priority_projects

   The FSF maintains a list of "high priority projects" to which the
   Foundation claims that "there is a vital need to draw the free
   software community's attention".[15] The FSF considers these projects
   "important because computer users are continually being seduced into
   using non-free software, because there is no adequate free
   replacement."

Sounds like their given you rubbers to use with the Microsoft harlot.

-- 
There's small choice in rotten apples.
		-- William Shakespeare, "The Taming of the Shrew"

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