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[News] FSF's Mako-Hill to Preach Difference Between Open Source and Free Software

  • Subject: [News] FSF's Mako-Hill to Preach Difference Between Open Source and Free Software
  • From: Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 21:11:12 +0100
  • Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy
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Benjamin Mako-Hill on Open Source vs. Free, GPL and Prepping for OSCON

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| Now the GPL, the GPL and other copy-left licenses sort of prevent that from 
| happening by saying, no; you need to share--you need to insure that the 
| freedoms that you had when you received the work are something that can be 
| passed on downstream. And that's a tactical decision because the FSF who sort 
| of puts out the GPL and continues to modify it--modifies it believes that by 
| insuring that the downstream users have freedom and continue to have freedom 
| that there will be more freedom overall. The more people that will release 
| their stuff as free software, the more people will be encouraged to keep 
| things more free in the long run and that ultimately there will be more free 
| and open source software as a result. So--and the GPL is designed to protect 
| that.          
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http://news.oreilly.com/2008/06/turner-interviews-mako-hill.html


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My Tongue-Lashing from Eben Moglen

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| He made a strong statement about why the Free Software Foundation ultimately 
| chose not to close the "SaaS loophole" in GPLv3... 
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http://radar.oreilly.com/archives/2007/08/my_tonguelashin.html


Open Source and Web 2.0

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| Moglen came out swinging, tossing out verbal jabs at the notion of Web 2.0 
| and the apolitical notions of open source. Moglen asserted that he was being
| grumpy this morning because certain people had left the free software 
| movement early to make money and left the free software folks to do all of 
| the heavy lifting.    
| 
| [...]
| 
| Moglen emphasized that Web 2.0 is nothing new under the sun, that the 
| questions that O'Reilly was posing were coming up 10 years ago, and that the 
| GPL v2 gave people like O'Reilly enough time, 10 years, to go off and make 
| their millions and enjoy the fruits of free software's labors. And, Moglen 
| added, the FSF, by releasing the GPL v3, just gave software vendors another 
| 10 years to grow up and figure out what was really important and get freedom 
| back into the conversation.      
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http://blog.linuxtoday.com/blog/archives/070724-115717.html


GPL author: Google must share code

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| Companies like Google that build their business on software such as
| Linux have a moral imperative to contribute back to the free
| software community, a prominent open source advocate said Tuesday.
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http://www.linuxworld.com/news/2007/052307-gpl-author-google-must-share.html?fsrc=rss-linux-news
http://tinyurl.com/2x5dvf


Pendulum has swung in the open source debate

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| Once upon a time, the term "open source" was coined to save the free-software 
| world from itself--or, rather, from the free-software zealots, as you can 
| read on the Open Source Initiative's Web site.  
| 
| Today, I can't help but feel that the pendulum has swung in the opposite 
| direction, where we're so self-satisfied with the money we're making off open 
| source that we have neglected the essential freedoms that make open-source 
| profit possible.   
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http://news.com.com/8301-10784_3-9752966-7.html


Open Source is no Web 2.0

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| It is time we stop the term open source from getting hijacked. I recently 
| wrote about how tech media doesn’t get open source. The events in the last 
| week or so have confirmed my thesis further.   
| 
| [...]
| 
| It is time for saner elements in the open source world to wake up and stop 
| the abuse of the term open source by the tech media and companies like 
| Microsoft. If we don’t do it now, the only other alternative is the free 
| software movement and the business community may not be able to leverage the 
| freedom offered by the free software then.    
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http://www.krishworld.com/blog/open-source/open-source-is-no-web-20


Cries for help go out as open source mogul's radar breaks

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| That very speech served as O'Reilly's attempt to make up for his evisceration 
| as the hands of Free Software Foundation attorney Eben Moglen. One day 
| earlier, Moglen charged O'Reilly with wasting too much time on hem lines, 
| haircuts and the latest fluffy Web 2.0 start-up that looks like it might be 
| acquired for a ridiculous amount of cash. O'Reilly had no counter on the 
| actual day of Moglen's attack, but thought about the issues overnight.     
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http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/07/28/oscon_oreilly_radar/


Eben Moglen challenges Tim O'Reilly to "join the conversation"

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| At the O'Reilly Open Source Convention today, Software Freedom Law Center 
| director Eben Moglen threw down the gauntlet to O'Reilly founder and CEO Tim 
| O'Reilly. Saying that O'Reilly had spent 10 years making money and building 
| the O'Reilly name, Moglen invited O'Reilly to stop being "frivolous" and to 
| join the conversation about software freedom.    
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http://www.linux.com/feature/118201


Web 2.0: Revolution or Hype?

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| "There is certainly an element of hype in any technology revolution," said 
| Tim O'Reilly, founder and chief executive of O'Reilly Media. 
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http://www.linuxinsider.com/rsstory/58460.html
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