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Re: Microsoft's "Jihad" Against Its Rivals

____/ Rick on Sunday 09 March 2008 22:38 : \____

> On Sun, 09 Mar 2008 15:10:03 -0400, Erik Funkenbusch wrote:
> 
>> Wow, a semi-original bit of prose from Roy.  I'm amazed.  Of course it's
>> full of inaccuracies, mistruths, and outright lies.. but at least he's
>> moved on to creating new content.

No, these are fragments of articles from the URLs cited.


>> On Sun, 09 Mar 2008 17:45:25 +0000, Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>> 
>>> Microsoft held out pretty long in not accepting the tcp/ip networking
>>> protocol of the Internet. When the Internet took off without them, they
>>> were simply forced to follow.
>> 
>> Microsoft included TCP/IP in the first version of Windows NT, in 1993.
>> Novell, Microsoft's leading networking competitor didn't include TCP/IP
>> until significantly later.  What's more, Microsoft released a TCP/IP
>> stack for Windows 3.x in 1992 based on the same stack.  This was several
>> years before "the internet took off".
> 
> ... and where di Microsoft get "its" TCP stack from?
> 
>> 
>> But then, if you were a real journalist, you'd know that...
>> 
>>> Such a situation does not apply to java.
>> 
>> Duh.  Java was released in 1995, the year after the internet "took off".
>> 
>>> Where tcp/ip was established and supported by vendors of servers
>> 
>> I'm not quite sure what you mean by this.  Are you suggesting Sun didn't
>> put TCP/IP in java?
>> 
>>> - that Microsoft couldn’t yet deplace - java is a standard that is
>>> still to be developed and it doesn’t have the protection of an already
>>> existing and difficult to remove environment with very strong “network
>>> effects”.
>> 
>> Java is *NOT* a standard.  People like you keep pretending it is, but
>> it's not.
>> 
>>> For this reason, to use their
>>> own words, Microsoft sought to “undermine”, “piss on” and “steal” the
>>> java language, just as they considered themselves to be engaged in a
>>> “jihad” against Netscape.
>> 
>> In many ways, the ODF fight is an extension of the Java fight.  Back
>> then, Sun was just itching for a fight with Microsoft, and they were
>> talking for months about how they were going to dig through Microsoft's
>> Java implementation with a fine tooth comb.  In the end, they had to
>> deny Microsoft access to the validation suite in order to make sure
>> Microsoft couldn't pass it.
>> 
>> These are the same dirty tricks they pulled in OASIS by pretending to
>> extend a welcoming invitation to Microsoft to work on ODF, while at the
>> same time making it clear that they would have no say in how ODF turned
>> out.
> 
> So, you have a problem with people using Microsoft's tactics against
> Microsoft?
> 
>> 
>>> The destruction of any form of
>>> standards is a standing strategic rule in Redmond.
>> 
>> Again, Roy.  *JAVA IS NOT A STANDARD OF ANY KIND*, other than de-facto.
> 

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                ~~ Best of wishes

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