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[News] [Rival] Financial Times on Microsoft OOXML Lobbyists/Stalkers, Abuse

  • Subject: [News] [Rival] Financial Times on Microsoft OOXML Lobbyists/Stalkers, Abuse
  • From: Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2008 02:26:09 +0000
  • Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy
  • Organization: Freelance
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Financial Times on MSOOXML

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| Anyway, what is interesting about this, is that a substantial amount of 
| information is based on my "Geneva, Day x" series, and the funny one 
| on "Geneva, Day Zero" blog entry. Yeah, FT even featured the walkin' talkin' 
| stalkin' Microsoft Malaysia Rep! Maija followed up on it, and it seems 
| Microsoft's official reason for his attendance was "to provide technical 
| assistance". Heh.     
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http://www.openmalaysiablog.com/2008/03/financial-times.html


Recent:

Probe into votes on Microsoft standard

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| The European Commission is investigating the process under which a key 
| Microsoft document format could be adopted as an industry standard - a move 
| that would carry significant commercial benefits for the software company.  
| 
| Officials at the European Commission's competition directorate have written 
| to members of the International Organisation for Standardisation, asking how 
| they prepared for votes in September and later this month on acceptance of 
| Microsoft's OOXML document format as a worldwide standard. Without ISO 
| acceptance, Microsoft could stand to lose business, particularly with 
| government clients, some of which are becoming increasingly keen to use only 
| ISO-certified software.      
| 
| The ISO process has been widely criticised, however, with some members of 
| national standards' bodies accusing Microsoft and its rivals of attempting to 
| influence the vote.  
| 
| Tim Bray, a member of the Canadian national standards body, called the 
| procedure "complete, utter, unadulterated bullshit" in a recent blog posting. 
| 
| [...]
| 
| In addition, in several countries, a large number of Microsoft partners 
| joined the national standards organisations just ahead of a vote on the issue 
| in September.  
| 
| [...]
| 
| Microsoft said it openly encouraged its partners to participate in the ISO 
| process, but was not funding any third parties doing so. The company said it 
| would cooperate with the European Commission's inquiry.   
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http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/88e570a2-ea56-11dc-b3c9-0000779fd2ac.html?nclick_check=1


Related:

The Art of Being Mugged

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| The four options presented were:
| 
|     * Option 1: Submitter's responses (Ecma's) are all automatically 
|       approved. 
|     * Option 2: Anything not discussed is not approved.
|     * Option 3: Neutral third-party (ITTF) decides which Ecma responses are 
|        accepted 
|     * Option 4: Voting (approve + disapprove) must be at least 9 votes. 
|       Abstentions not counted. 
| 
| We were told that these options are not in the Directives and that were are 
| given these choices because ITTF "needs to act in the best interests of the 
| IEC". I don't quite get it, but there appears to be some concern over what 
| the press would think if the BRM did not handle all of the comments. One NB 
| requested to speak and asked, "I wonder what the press would think about 
| arbitrarily changed procedures?". No response. I thought to myself, why 
| wasn't ITTF thinking about the 'best interests" of JTC1 when they allowed a 
| 6,045 page Fast Track submission, or ignored all those contradiction 
| submissions, or decided to schedule a 5-day BRM to handle 3,522 NB comments. 
| Isn't it a bit late to start worrying about what the press will think?         
| 
| We break for lunch.
| 
| After lunch and after more discussion, the meeting adopted a variation of 
| option 4, by removing the vote minimum. I believe in this vote the BRM and 
| ITTF exceeded its authority and violated the consensus principles described 
| in JTC1 Directives.   
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http://www.robweir.com/blog/2008/03/art-of-being-mugged.html


Microsoft’s secretive standards orgs in Former Yugoslavia

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| Croatian laws keep its national body’s votes secret, so the only way for the 
| Croatian public to find out how the process went would be if a board member 
| illegally leaked information out of CSI. This is, of course, unlikely to 
| happen. And the Serbian national standardization body is not officially 
| formed, so those two votes were easy for Microsoft, and probably not only 
| ones around the globe.      
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http://www.linuxworld.com/news/2007/092407-ooxml.html?page=1


Microsoft Tech Ed 2007: OpenXML

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| He was asked "Why did Microsoft push OOXML through the "Fast Track" process 
| instead of the standard ISO process? Wouldn't they get less resistance than 
| faced now?"  
| 
| His response was very frank: "Office is a USD$10 billion revenue generator 
| for the company. When ODF was made an ISO standard, Microsoft had to react 
| quickly as certain governments have procurement policies which prefer ISO 
| standards. Ecma and OASIS are 'international standards', but ISO is the 
| international 'Gold Standard'. Microsoft therefore had to rush this standard 
| through. Its a simple matter of commercial interests!"     
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http://www.openmalaysiablog.com/2007/09/microsoft-tech-.html


Tim Bray: "process was complete, utter, unadulterated bullshit"

,----[ Quote ]
| The Canadian BRM delegate Tim Bray strongly criticised the ISO process while 
| he doesn't blame the BRM failure on ISO but on the vendor that used the ECMA 
| proxy.  
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http://www.noooxml.org/forum/t-44211/tim-bray:process-was-complete-utter-unadulterated-bullshit


Showdown in Geneva: OOXML Fails to Achieve Majority Approval at BRM

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| Many, many, people around the world have tried very hard to make the OOXML 
| adoption process work.  It is very unfortunate that they were put to this 
| predictably unsuccessful result through the self-interest of a single vendor 
| taking advantage of a permissive process that was never intended to be abused 
| in this fashion.  It would be highly inappropriate to compound this error by 
| approving a clearly unfinished specification in the voting period ahead.  To 
| paraphrase a former First Lady, it's time to "Just say No" to OOXML.      
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http://www.consortiuminfo.org/standardsblog/article.php?story=20080229055319727


OOXML Fails to Get Majority Approval at BRM - Updated 2Xs

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| Andy Updegrove has the results in detail here, including a breakdown of the 
| votes. Basically, there were too many proposed changes to be able to cover 
| them in the BRM, so they tried a workaround, but the upshot is ... it's a 
| mess. Oddly, despite the rules, Alex Brown, Updegrove reports, allowed non P 
| countries to vote, but OOXML still couldn't get a majority of the delegations 
| to back it at the BRM. Nor is it clear that allowing non P countries to vote 
| is even legitimate. Now it's the 30-day voting period, but Updegrove asks, if 
| they never could discuss all the issues, which is the purpose of a BRM, 
| what's the basis for a vote? And with the vast majority either voting to 
| abstain or even refusing to vote as a protest, I think one may conclude this 
| proposal didn't belong on the fast track, and it isn't getting the kind of 
| support you would have thought it might, given all the muscle that has gone 
| into the push to get OOXML approved.            
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http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20080229124919217


Bureaucracy swamps ISO meeting on Microsoft format

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| Instead, the ballot resolution meeting became bogged down in bureaucracy as 
| the delegates struggled with more than a thousand points of order, as well as 
| the 6,000 pages of code that define Microsoft's Office Open XML (OOXML) 
| format.   
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http://www.reuters.com/article/technologyNews/idUSN2923321820080229


Weak ISO support for changes to Open XML throws shadow over final approval

,----[ Quote ]
| A committee of ISO members in Geneva may have approved the proposed changes 
| to Microsoft's Office Open XML (OOXML) on Friday, but the document format's 
| final approval remains far from certain.  
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http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9065958


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