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Re: Aus. PC World: No good reason to upgrade to Vista

[Crosspost removed. Please don't crosspost to anti-Windows messages in Windows
forums.]

____/ Charlie Wilkes on Wednesday 19 March 2008 01:16 : \____

> "At the end of the decade, when Microsoft's executives look back at the
> debacle that was Windows Vista, they'll see that simply slapping a fresh
> coat of paint on an otherwise aging Windows architecture wasn't enough to
> fool anybody. Let's hope they also realize that, as with any major
> update, they needed to make their case to IT. Focusing on consumers while
> ignoring their enterprise customers, and assuming IT shops would simply
> fall in line, was no way to execute a platform migration."
> 
> http://www.pcworld.idg.com.au/index.php/id;1155325152;pp;1;fp;2;fpid;2
> ________________________________________________________________________
> 
> This is an interesting article that will put to rest any nagging doubts
> experienced by those who have opted to stick with XP.

Let's see...

FTA:

,----[ Quote ]
| PC World's in-house tests with the release-to-manufacturing (RTM) version of 
| Vista SP1 have shown mixed results. In file copying tests, the service pack 
| proved noticeably faster than the original Vista OS. Other tests, on the 
| other hand, showed little improvement (or actually performed worse than Vista 
| without the service pack). For instance, our preliminary file compression 
| tests showed a decrease in performance with SP1 installed.     
`----

Yes, this concurs with various /independent/ tests, including:

Vista SP1 a Performance Dud

,----[ Quote ]
| After extensive testing of both RTM and SP1-patched versions of Windows 
| Vista, it seems clear that the hoped-for performance fixes that Microsoft has 
| been hinting at never materialized. Vista + SP1 is no faster than Vista from 
| the RTM image.   
| 
| Bottom Line: If you've been disappointed with the performance of Windows 
| Vista to date, get used to it. SP1 is simply not the panacea that many 
| predicted. In the end, it's Vista's architecture - not a lack of tuning or 
| bug fixes - that makes it perform so poorly on systems that 
| were "barn-burners" under Windows XP.    
`----

http://exo-blog.blogspot.com/2007/11/vista-sp1-performance-dud.html


FTA again:

,----[ Quote ]
| Third-party software companies will have mixed reactions to SP1. While it 
| will open up access to the built-in search functionality for third-party 
| desktop search apps, it has already raised problems for some third-party 
| security software vendors whose utilities have been disrupted by the update.   
`----


There have been many complaints about this already, including:


Microsoft Says Vista SP1 Blocks Third Party Apps

,----[ Quote ]
| Microsoft has confirmed that some third party applications are either blocked 
| or lose functionality on machines that have Vista service pack 1 installed, 
| including products from Trend Micro, Zonelabs, BitDefender, and Novell.  
`----

http://www.crn.com/software/206801221


Microsoft becoming 'software police,' say users

,----[ Quote ]
| Microsoft Corp. last week slammed
| the door on a free utility out of Australia that outflanked one of the
| company's touted security features in Windows Vista, by having the
| program's digital certificate revoked....
`----

http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&taxonomyName=windows&articleId=9029161&taxonomyId=125


Microsoft publishes list of compatibility problems with Vista Service Pack 1

,----[ Quote ]
| Microsoft has published a list of programs that may "experience a loss of 
| functionality", if they run at all, once Service Pack 1 has been installed on 
| Windows Vista.  
`----

http://www.heise.de/english/newsticker/news/103815/from/rss09


Other reviews were not optimistic:

A Second Shot: Windows Vista SP1

,----[ Quote ]
| As far as the Vista user experience is concerned, users shouldn't expect any 
| significant changes with SP1. 
`----

http://www.anandtech.com/systems/showdoc.aspx?i=3233


Hands off Vista Service Pack

,----[ Quote ]
| It's annoying that despite the Service Pack, Vista still doesn't correctly 
| handle backup archives which were generated with its predecessor Windows XP. 
| Neither is there a noticeable improvement to notebook battery life. When 
| tested, one notebook only worked half as long as with Windows XP. Eight 
| further notebooks didn't run differently either in the c't test. There even 
| were some entirely new issues, for example with virus scanners. Norton 
| Antivirus produces error messages, and Bitdefender Antivirus can't be 
| installed any more at al       
`----

http://www.heise.de/english/newsticker/news/103646/from/rss09


Vista SP1 won't sacrifice security for compatibility

,----[ Quote ]
| Vista SP1 will include a significant number of "proactive" security changes, 
| DeVaan said. These do not represent fixes for specific vulnerabilities, 
| instead they represent Microsoft's efforts to head off potential threats.  
`----

http://www.itwire.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=14224&Itemid=1054


Vista's Upgrade: Not Worth the Wait

,----[ Quote ]
| Although Microsoft has reported solid sales of Vista, a lot of copies went to 
| corporations that tried the program for a few weeks, then downgraded to XP. 
`----

http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/08_05/b4069000450184.htm?campaign_id=yhoo


Microsoft Windows Vista SP1 Beta

,----[ Quote ]
| Windows lives and dies by its service packs. I can't recall the last initial 
| release of any Windows product that didn't have at least some problems. 
| 
| [...]
| 
| Still, given that Vista is essentially a rewrite of XP meant to enhance 
|                   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
| security (and, of course, media features), I'm not surprised to see Microsoft  
| take this route for the service pack. 
`----

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2704,2192546,00.asp


It remains to be seen when it will come because it already paralysed 1 in 3
machines that had this attempted, according to at least one report. Microsoft
must be holding it back in order to study the issues.


Re: Configurating updates: stage 3 of 3 stuck in endless reboot loop  

,----[ Quote ]
| My install of the SP1 RC Refesh has gone wrong.
|  
| Everytime I start the computer it says:
| 
| Configurating updates: stage 3 of 3 - 0% complete
| 
| And then reboots, and reboots, and reboots ... I had it rebooting for over an 
| hour before I stopped the madness. 
| All the safe modes does the same, so how do I uninstall the installer, 
| without being able to log in? 
`----

http://forums.microsoft.com/TechNet/showpost.aspx?postid=2848906&siteid=17


Delays:

Windows Vista Ultimate SP1 delayed

,----[ Quote ]
| Microsoft has admitted that service pack one (SP1) for its Ultimate edition 
| of Windows Vista will not be made available to everyone in mid-March as 
| originally planned, because of a delay with 31 of its language packs.  
`----

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/03/04/vista_ultimate_sp1_language_packs/


Vista SP1 Released and Delayed Simultaneously

,----[ Quote ]
| Continuing their apparent efforts to take the steam out of Windows Vista, 
| Microsoft today announced that the long awaited Windows Vista Service Pack 1 
| is being released, but not to Vista users. That’s right, SP1 is now RTM 
| (Released to Manufacturing), but won’t be released via any means to end users 
| or even system administrators for at least another month and a half.    
`----

http://itsvista.com/2008/02/vista-sp1-released-and-delayed-simultaneously/



No wonder the top man has run away from Vista (and from Microsoft also, IIRC).

Vista marketing chief to bid Microsoft adieu

,----[ Quote ]
| Michael Sievert, Corporate Vice President for Windows Product Marketing, is 
| moving on, according to multiple sources of mine. 
| 
| It’s hard to make the case that Sievert, who was responsible for the 
| worldwide introduction of Windows Vista, isn’t being pushed for the 
| less-than-enthusiastic public perception of Microsoft’s latest version of 
| Windows. Even though Microsoft has moved 100-million-plus copies of Vista, 
| many consumers and businesses still consider the new release buggy, sluggish 
| and incompatible with existing software and drivers.     
`----

http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=1158


Last good shot at the foot:

Service Pack 1 for Windows Vista not for pirates

,----[ Quote ]
| Although, unlike previous Windows versions, Vista is not available as an 
| activation-free version, a number of more or less effective methods were 
| quickly found to run Vista without activation. However, this is soon to end. 
| According to Microsoft, Service Pack 1 for Windows Vista closes two 
| vulnerabilities which previously enabled operation of Vista without a 
| license.     
`----

http://www.heise.de/english/newsticker/news/100006/from/rss09


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