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[News] Mono Irrelevant, Novell Promotes It, Eclipse Replaces It

  • Subject: [News] Mono Irrelevant, Novell Promotes It, Eclipse Replaces It
  • From: Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 05:22:36 +0000
  • Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy
  • Organization: Freelance
  • User-agent: KNode/0.10.4
Mono: Maturing, but Relevant?

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| On the legal front, Microsoft and Novell have signed agreements to work 
| together on some parts of Mono, and Novell and Microsoft have various other 
| agreements in place. The Mono contributors have also pointed to the published 
| ECMA specs for C# as the basis for their work, and have consistently said 
| they remain ready to rewrite any portion of Mono that Microsoft should some 
| day assert claims against (so far, there have been no such claims).     
| 
| Despite all of this, Mono seems to still be a marginal player in the open 
| source world. A search of SourceForge, for example, reveals less than 400 
| projects mentioning Mono, and C# projects (on whatever infrastructure) are 
| vastly outnumbered by others. For whatever reason, the open source community 
| has not widely embraced C# - whether this is due to its Microsoft roots, 
| worries that Microsoft's murky IP policies will someday make Mono an 
| untenable platform, or for other reasons.      
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http://ostatic.com/158588-blog/mono-maturing-but-relevantss

Acacia Trollporation is still busy. With Microsoft employees in house it has
already attacked Novell.

Acacia Subsidiary Enters into License Agreement with Siemens

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| Acacia Research Corporation (Nasdaq: ACTG) announced today that its Disc Link 
| Corporation subsidiary has entered into a license agreement with Siemens 
| Product Lifecycle Management Software Inc. The agreement resolves the 
| parties’ dispute concerning patents relating to the distribution of CDs or 
| DVDs that include a link to retrieve additional data via the Internet.    
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http://www.businesswire.com/portal/site/home/?epi_menuItemID=8529ea2ad8631dcd3bb97904c6908a0c&epi_menuID=887566059a3aedb6efaaa9e27a808a0c&epi_baseMenuID=384979e8cc48c441ef0130f5c6908a0c&ndmViewId=news_view&newsLang=en&newsId=20080317005344

Here comes Novellsoft again:

Novell Will Key On Interoperability Of .Net And J2EE Platforms

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| Novell plans to focus on interoperability between the .NET and J2EE platforms 
| and put a renewed emphasis on customer relationships, Ron Hovsepian, Novell 
| CEO and president, said Monday during a keynote at the company's BrainShare 
| conference in Salt Lake City.   
| 
| An important element of Novell's strategy, he said, is built around 
| enterprise IT management software. "There are two stacks of software that 
| will exist inside your enterprises that you'll want to build applications on 
| top of," he said, referring to the J2EE stack and Microsoft's .NET 
| stack. "The core piece of what we try to do is focus in on the harmony 
| between those IT stacks." Hovsepian also said Linux is another key piece of 
| Novell's game plan. "Linux is the foundation of what we're trying to get 
| done, from desktop to data center," he said. "It will play a key role going 
| forward in the future."         
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http://www.crn.com/software/206904156

At least someone is doing it right...

Eclipse launches super run-time project as alternative to Java and .NET

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| The Eclipse organization has amassed a huge installed base of developers 
| using its Java-based open source development tools. Now the organization has 
| set its sights on the run-time arena and will take on Sun’s Java and 
| Microsoft’s .NET with what it says is an agnostic open source component model 
| that runs across multiple operating systems and computing tiers.    
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http://blogs.zdnet.com/open-source/?p=2136

There are many other interesting announcements from this Eclipse conference.
All great for Open Source...


Related:

Tasky, another good tool, another bad idea

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| Because it's written in C#. And guess what? Copyright (C) 2007 Novell, Inc.
| 
| [...]
| 
| No word about dependencies. No word about Mono. Nothing alarming in the Goals 
| section. 
| 
| [...]
| 
| Now you know. In that f--ing Novell's Hackweek they could have started a new 
| project in a different way — but no, they wanted it in Mono! 
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http://beranger.org/index.php?page=diary&2008/02/29/11/09/37-tasky-another-good-tool-another-


It's tiresome to stick to a few principles, or: Mono is FUD

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| As a final note, it would be nice if the new Fedora Project Leader would make 
| a public statement on Mono. Heck, Max could too know whether Red Hat is not 
| shipping Mono with RHEL because of patents, because it's wrong to do it, 
| because they don't want to support it, or because they don't support it yet.   
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http://beranger.org/index.php?page=diary&2008/02/25/08/52/11-it-s-tiresome-to-stick-to-a-few-


OpenSolaris, Gobuntu, and be careful who you kiss

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| I read the agreement between Xandros and Microsoft, and one of the excluded 
| products was Mono, so Microsoft promises to not sue Xandros over their 
| distribution but excluding Mono and a few other products, i.e. they reserve 
| the right to sue over Mono. I wonder if this is an interesting preview of on 
| what basis they want to fight the free world.    
| 
| Interestingly, the Novell deal seems to be different, Mono is not excluded 
| from the Novell deal. So Microsoft seems to be promising not to sue Novell 
| over Mono, but keeps the option open for Xandros. Weird but true.  
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http://commandline.org.uk/2007/be-careful-who-you-kiss/


Miguel, Mono and Microsoft

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| is Mono's role in the deal that of a hook to make customers write
| .NET applications because they can be run on Linux - only to find
| later on that they are armless or legless because of a change in
| the .NETspecifications, a change which Microsoft decides not to
| make public?
| 
| [...]
| 
| And here we have an individual who decides to replicate one of
| the proprietary company's development environments - for reasons
| best known to him alone - and keeps telling people that the reason
| he's doing it is so that he can pull people over from the
| proprietary company's side to his side!!!
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http://www.itwire.com.au/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=11081&Itemid=1091

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