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Re: [News] Microvell Employee Throws Slime at Ubuntu, Gets Slammed in Return

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____/ Peter Köhlmann on Friday 19 September 2008 20:23 : \____

> Roy Schestowitz wrote:
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>> ____/ Peter Köhlmann on Friday 19 September 2008 10:58 : \____
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>>> Roy Schestowitz wrote:
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>>>> ____/ Peter Köhlmann on Friday 19 September 2008 10:48 : \____
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>>>>> ml2mst wrote:
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>>>>>> Roy Schestowitz wrote:
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>>>>>>> ____/ Peter Köhlmann on Friday 19 September 2008 05:53 : \____
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>>>>>>>> Roy Schestowitz wrote:
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>>>>>>>>> ____/ Peter Köhlmann on Thursday 18 September 2008 22:49 : \____
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>>>>>>>>>> Roy Schestowitz wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>>>  Matt Zimmerman, CTO of Canonical, is unhappy with Greg
>>>>>>>>>>>  Kroah-Hartman, one of
>>>>>>>>>>> | the Linux kernel maintainers, because of Kroah-Hartman's
>>>>>>>>>>> | keynote at the Linux Plumbers Conference. The keynote,
>>>>>>>>>>> | described elsewhere as a reworking a June presentation, makes a
>>>>>>>>>>> | number of claims about Canonical's activity in the community,
>>>>>>>>>>> | presenting various tables which showed Canonical not making
>>>>>>>>>>> | many upstream patches and concluding "Canonical doesn't give
>>>>>>>>>>> | back to the community".
>>>>>>>>>>> `
>>>>>>>>>> Well, they are not, compared to others
>>>>>>>>>> Novell contributed more than 7000 patches
>>>>>>>>>> Red Hat more than 11000
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Well, and Ubuntu? A whopping 100
>>>>>>>>> They are not kernel focused. They sell desktops more than servers.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Irrelevant
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> That may be so. It's being discussed in some other sites at the
>>>>>>> moment.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Even if they haven't contributed much to the kernel, they have
>>>>>> contributed quite a lot to overall usability and acceptance of
>>>>>> GNU/Linux.
>>>>> 
>>>>> That may well be so.
>>>>> But so have others. SuSE for example does a lot for KDE and the video
>>>>> drivers for X. SuSE also did most of the port to AMD64 architecture.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Beside that, the well organized LoCo teams are very friendly and
>>>>>> helpful to new users.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Me thinks Ubuntu deserves credit for that.
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> They certainly do. Nonetheless some critic is warranted
>>>> 
>>>> I've found some really nice explanation of this with some pictures:
>>>> 
>>>>
>>>
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>
http://dustinkirkland.wordpress.com/2008/09/18/whats-behind-gregkhs-latest-rant/
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>>> 
>>> Ah yes. That explains why Novell/SuSE is doing more than 70 times the
>>> number of patches. Or Red Hat more than 100 times the patches.
>>> 
>>> It is all a big Novell/MS conspiracy...
>>> 
>>> Roy, please don't treat me as stupid as DumbFullShit or Hadron Quark
>> 
>> It shows you just the kernel though.
>> 
> 
> Then please don't treat me like an imbecile with links like that.
> 
> If I want a conspiracy theory, I will say so. Until then, please provide
> only links which warrant to be read more than 5 lines when arguing with me

Many bug reports are filed with Ubuntu (Launchpad), which takes patches
upstream. Also, with many LTSes, Ubuntu needs to have its 200 staff dedicated
to maintenance.

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