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How I think Wikipedia works
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| I have a mental model of how Wikipedia works and behaves. This may not
| reflect reality, but it is how I, as an end-user, expect Wikipedia to behave.
| I think these are reasonable expectations regarding things like standards of
| proof and balance and that if the real Wikipedia differs substantially from
| these expectations, then we have a problem.
|
| [...]
|
| Does anyone know whether the above statements have any basis in the
| aspirations or actual practice of Wikipedia editors and admins? Sadly, my
| recent reading of some articles suggests that these reasonable expectations
| are routinely flouted and bear little resemblance to reality.
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http://www.robweir.com/blog/2009/06/how-i-think-wikipedia-works.html
Recent:
Why Microsoft Hates - No, *Really* Hates - ODF
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| What this means is that Microsoft is only making big money on its Office
| suite, for whose luxurious margins it must therefore fight tooth and nail.
| Which, judging by its behaviour at the ISO, and some more recent stories, is
| exactly what it is doing in the face of growing pressure from open ODF-based
| alternatives like OpenOffice.org.
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http://www.computerworlduk.com/community/blogs/index.cfm?entryid=2269&blogid=14
Rob Weir Exposes an Anti-ODF Whisper Campaign
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| Alex Brown, the convenor of the OOXML BRM, has been editing Wikipedia's
| article on ODF. That strikes me odd, like finding out Steve Jobs had been
| editing the Microsoft Zune page. Some things are simply inappropriate. It
| puzzles me why Wikipedia allows it, frankly.
|
| If you read the talk page on ODF, you'll see that there are others there
| trying mightily to spin the article on ODF more negatively than is factual.
| And such rudeness! Plenty of smears against Groklaw too, I couldn't help but
| notice. It does seem to me that there is a marked increase in what I view as
| a concerted submarine marketing effort. Some of it is subtle. Most of it is
| not. A fair measure of it is mean-spirited. Some of it is lies, pure and
| simple.
|
| In the good old days, dead people supported Microsoft, if you remember that
| funny headline about a pro-Microsoft astroturfing campaign, but at least it
| wasn't a smear campaign, just pro-Microsoft. Nowadays, I think I would have
| to rewrite the headline to read, "Mean People Support Microsoft." Or worse.
| You see, Groklaw has been visited recently by several OOXML types, including
| Alex Brown, Doug Mahue of Microsoft, and Rick Jelliffe, all singing pretty
| much the same songs, posting on our ODF articles, so I got to watch it close
| up. I puzzled over it, because they seemed so deliberately rude.
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http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=2009061001520015
http://markmail.org/search/?q=Alex+Brown&q=list%3Aorg.oasis-open.lists.office-comment
ODF Lies and Whispers
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| So what is one to do? You obviously can't trust Wikipedia whatsoever in this
| area. This is unfortunate, since I am a big fan of Wikipedia. But since the
| day when Microsoft decided they needed to pay people to "improve" the ODF and
| OOXML articles, they have been a cesspool of FUD, spin and outright lies,
| seemingly manufactured for Microsoft's re-use in their whisper campaign. My
| advice would be to seek out official information on the standards, from the
| relevant organizations, like OASIS, the chairs of the relevant committees,
| etc. Ask the questions in public places and seek a public response. That is
| the ultimate weakness of FUD and lies. They cannot stand the light of public
| exposure. Sunlight is the best antiseptic.
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http://www.robweir.com/blog/2009/06/odf-lies-and-whispers.html
Microsoft Office tries to break ODF
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| Just a quick update to our OpenDocument campaign, with news that Microsoft
| Office has added support for ODF, but in a state that leaves it incompatible
| with every other ODF capable application out there, including OpenOffice.org
| and KOffice.
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http://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/odf-office
Sun ODF Plugin 3.1 for Microsoft Office
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| A new version of the ODF Plugin for Microsoft Office is available.
|
| As I wrote in the last ODF Plugin announcement, the Plugin nowadays uses the
| same version number like the underlying OpenOffice.org version, so this
| version is now based on OpenOffice.org 3.1.
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http://blogs.sun.com/malte/entry/sun_odf_plugin_3_01
6 Projects We Hope Apple Is Building
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| 2. OpenDocument Format (ODF) support in iWorks
|
| ODF is an ISO standard for office document formats, with many government
| agencies in the world adopt the standard as compulsory interchange format.
| More organizations would be willing to adopt iWorks if ODF is a supported
| format. For consumers, it means their files can be saved in a format that is
| independent of iWorks software version changes.
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http://sanziro.com/2009/06/6-projects-we-hope-apple-is-building.html
ODF adoption continues - has it ‘crossed the chasm’?
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| What prompted me to realize this just today? I receive the ODF Alliance
| Newsletter regularly in my inbox. Today, I noticed the following:
|
| (note that while the URL is in Spanish, the translation can be seen here
| thanks to Google)
| ECUADOR CHARTS PATH TO ODF ADOPTION
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http://www.michaeldolan.com/1420
Microsoft And ODF: Bad For Everyone
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| In shocking news, Microsoft’s support of ODF in Microsoft Office is basically
| unusable in many respects, according to the OpenDocument Format Alliance.
| This is a real problem for ODF’s adoption, since Office users who try using
| it, either for opening a document or for sending a document to someone else,
| will likely blame their issues on ODF, and, thus, avoid it.
|
| What Microsoft has done with ODF support seems likely to harm ODF’s
| acceptance, rather than help it. It’s hard to tell if this move was
| incompetent or malicious or something entirely different?
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http://www.linuxloop.com/news/2009/05/22/microsoft-and-odf-bad-for-everyone/
Microsoft's ODF support is broken, says alliance
http://www.ioltechnology.co.za/article_page.php?from=rss_IOLTechHome&iSectionId=2883&iArticleId=4994136
ODF is not the same as ODF?
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| ODF implemented by one company is not the same as implemented by the other
| seven products.
|
| There's rumble in the web during the last days. And the reason is something
| to celebrate, but regrettably only for the first look. Microsoft published
| Service Pack 2 for their Microsoft Office 2007 product and for the first time
| in history they decided to officially support saving and opening in Open
| Document Standard (ODF). Really, that's the right step towards a higher level
| of interoperability! Congratulations!
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http://www.osor.eu/communities/openoffice-in-public-authorities/blog/odf-is-not-the-same-as-odf
Microsoft’s ODF support is broken, says alliance
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| ODF Alliance managing director Marino Marcich said in a press statement this
| week that “support for ODF represents an important and ongoing test of
| Microsoft’s commitment to real-world interoperability. Unfortunately, serious
| shortcomings have been identified in Microsoft’s support for ODF. Putting
| potentially millions of ODF files into circulation that are non-interoperable
| and incompatible with the ODF support provided by other vendors is a recipe
| for fragmentation.”
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http://www.tectonic.co.za/?p=4806
Links for the 20th of May 2009
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| # I could point to other blogs, but this one comes from Jeremy Allison,
| author of Samba, now working for the great Satan Google. It’s actually quite
| interesting because what Jeremy is saying is that all this dispute seems to
| be based on the impression that Microsoft did the minimum to have ODF work
| inside MS Office. My take on this is we should first stop getting ballistic
| at each other, especially inside the ODF TC. What is needed in the interest
| of ODF and the users, is to have a careful examination not on the ODF
| conformance in MS Office, but on why, based on experience, the
| interoperability is severely hampered when using ODF with MS Office. Based on
| this analysis we should be able to go forward. But don’t let this fool you:
| this has, I’m afraid, nothing to do with the development of ODF 1.2.
| # As an interesting reminder, here’s what the European Commission was saying
| about Microsoft’s announcement on the support of ODF inside MS Office last
| year.
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http://standardsandfreedom.net/index.php/2009/05/20/links-for-the-20th-of-may-2009/
Is OOXML the better standard?
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| No, it is not in my opinion. But I think that is what Microsoft now tries to
| make us public authorities think. I know about the facts behind the scenes. I
| know that this company declines real support for ODF by doing something
| strange, not aiming at real interoperability, but at a Microsoft
| implementation of ODF, not compatible with others. So they, as worldwide
| market leader, can proof the insufficiency of ODF. And they have the solution
| for us. Use OOXML instead. It implements every function Microsoft Office
| does. And the next step is, that other interested implementations should
| improve their products to implement everything OOXML does. Really simple,
| isn’t it?
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http://www.floschi.info/2009/05/is-ooxml-the-better-standard/
Overunderdoing: patterns in Microsoft's interoperability stance
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| Well, if we're talking about interoperability it has been done. Or tried. We
| could call it overunderdoing. Here's the algorithm:
|
| 1. pick one interoperability concern
| 2. solve it up to 85% (percentage may vary)
| 3. wisely choose the 15% to leave out so interoperability can be said
| to work but with constant annoyances
| 4. make a loud announcement to the press
| 5. profit: everyone will read the announcement but only a small
| fraction of such readers will notice the missing bits; despite the
| claimable advances over the previous situation it still won't be
| practical to make any use of the announced interoperability
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http://blog.angulosolido.pt/2009/05/overunderdoing-patterns-in-microsofts.html
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