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____/ Jerry McBride on Tuesday 02 June 2009 23:42 : \____
> Roy Schestowitz wrote:
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>> Disinformation Disinfected, Pt. 2: The False Dilemma
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>> | One of the common defenses ? a ?talking point?, if you will ? of mono /
>> | moonlight apologists goes something like this:
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>> | ?Software patents are bad, but are not a problem unique to mono. If you
>> | worry about patents in mono, you have to worry about patents in general.
>> | And, if you do that, you might as well not even develop software at all.
>> | So, don?t worry about mono.?
>> |
>> | Variations on this theme abound, here?s just one recent example from the
>> | Ubuntu Forums:
>> |
>> | using mono is the same as using the linux kernel. there is always a
>> | risk for patent infringement since it?s the whole patent system is
>> | so broken in america.
>> |
>> | This defense of mono has been around for a while, Miguel de Icaza uses
>> | it back in 2004, with what I guess he thinks is an especially subtle
>> | misrepresentation of the concern:
>> |
>> | Not using Mono in any shape or form is not a blank waiver against
>> | patents.
>> |
>> | [...]
>> |
>> | Microsoft suing TomTom has made this a bit of a tricky argument for mono
>> | apologists ? it was once popular to point out how Microsoft only used
>> | their patent portfolio defensively ? but it still comes up enough to be
>> | worth addressing.
>> |
>> | I don?t want to go too far afield ? I?m trying to stick to one small
>> | point per post and this is already too long ? but there is a subtler bit
>> | of misinformation here: the implication that if there were no patent
>> | issues at all, everyone would be welcoming mono with open arms. I guess
>> | they think mono
>> | is just that fucking awesome. However, there are countless projects
>> | that fail to achieve mainstream acceptance for a host of reasons.
>> |
>> | I?ll try to deal with some of those reasons later ? thanks for reading!
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http://meandubuntu.wordpress.com/2009/06/01/disinformation-disinfected-pt-2-the-false-dilemma/
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>> MS v Linux: Sparks of the Tom Tom Fire stubbornly refuse to die
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>> | In course of the last decade, every once in a while Microsoft has been
>> | known to have accused Linux of infringing one of its patents or another.
>> | Despite the said multiple claims for years that elements of the
>> | open-source operating system violate its patents, Microsoft had
>> | restricted itself till 2009 to supporting legal action against Linux
>> | (for instance, the infamous alleged funneling of money by Microsoft to
>> | SCO so as to fuel the latter?s lawsuits against IBM and other Linux-user
>> | companies). Simultaneously with such actions, Microsoft has not
>> | restricted either its alliances with the said companies, including its
>> | partnerships with Novell and Red Hat.
>> |
>> | [...]
>> |
>> | However, the settlement is far from successful in calming down the
>> | much-agitated open-source legal community, with the legal issues
>> | involved being still undecided. In effect, this settlement ends one
>> | phase of the community's response to Microsoft patent aggression and
>> | begins another.It may be interesting to note that a continuing
>> | litigation will have subjected Microsoft?s patent claims to a rigorous
>> | ?prior art? search to which the company may have been unwilling.
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http://spicyipindia.blogspot.com/2009/06/ms-v-linux-sparks-of-tom-tom-fire.html
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>> Recent:
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>> Striking the Right Gnote
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>> | Not that Figuiere is a Mono advocate. But his opposition over the years
>> | has been more practical than philosophical. For instance, in several
>> | discussion threads about Including Mono in GNOME on the
>> | desktop-devel-list in July 2006, Figuiere objected to shipping
>> | Mono-based apps on the grounds that the language required a lot of disk
>> | space, but was supporting only minor applications -- and he made the
>> | same objection to Python, a far less contentious programming language.
>> |
>> | This objection, incidentally, is one that he continues to hold today.
>> | Gnote, he tells me, "has all to do with the burden of carrying runtime
>> | systems designed to make the programmer's life easier (but not the
>> | users'). Had Tomboy been written in Python, it would have gotten the
>> | same treatment."
>> |
>> | Of course, Figuiere might have soured on Mono after being laid off at
>> | Novell in February. But, if he did, it would be strange if he continued
>> | to use what he describes as an "openSUSE 11.1 custom build with SUSE
>> | Studio with some custom packages" -- free software versions of Novell's
>> | own products.
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http://itmanagement.earthweb.com/osrc/article.php/3822091/Striking-the-Right-Gnote.htm
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>> Getting to know Gnote
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>> | What is a big deal is that Gnote does what I need it to do. The
>> | controvery surrounding it be hanged (and you can use your favourite
>> | search engine to learn about the controversy). I like Gnote. It?s
>> | useful. And until something better comes along, it?s going to be my note
>> | application of choice
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>> http://scottnesbitt.net/ubuntublog/?p=444
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> Mono is just bad.... I've killed it on every occurrence that I've found
> it...
>
> Heck... it even feels good to do it...
Like wiping Windows off a new PCs... but the difference is you don't pay in
vain for Mono (Windows tax).
- --
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