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Redhat/Fedora drops Mono
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| It will come as no surprise to regular readers that I am heartily encouraged
| by this small snippet of news I picked up via Twitter this afternoon (thanks
| Roy)
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http://www.theopensourcerer.com/2009/06/02/redhatfedora-drops-mono/
What's New in Fedora 12 (codename) Alpha
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| Gnote is installed by default in GNOME for this release replacing Tomboy.
| Gnote is a port of Tomboy from Mono to C++ and consumes less resources. Gnote
| is both an applet that can sit in your GNOME panel as well as a individual
| application you can run within other desktop environments. Fedora Desktop
| Live CD excluded Mono in the last releases due to lack of space. Gnote will
| be installed by default in the Live CD as well in this release. Tomboy is
| still available as a optional alternative. If you are upgrading from the
| previous release you will not be migrated to Gnote and will continue to have
| Tomboy. It is easy to migrate to Gnote however as it shares the file format.
| This migration is not automatic. You can copy the notes from Tomboy to Gnote
| using the following command in your home directory
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https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Alpha_release_notes#GNOME_2.28
Gnote in F12
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| I have now changed the default panel configuration in F12 to include
| gnote instead of tomboy, and changed comps to make gnote default and
| tomboy optional.
|
| This won't replace tomboy in existing installations, but new
| installations will get gnote instead of tomboy.
|
| This also means that gnote should show up on the live cd (where we
| excluded tomboy previously, due to no space for mono).
|
| Some things are still needed for a 100% smooth experience:
| - pick up existing tomboy notes (less urgent now, since we do not
| replace tomboy...)
| - don't show the 'start here' note initially
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https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-desktop-list/2009-June/msg00003.html
Recent:
Strip Mono from Ubuntu and prevent it to come back
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| Really. This stuff is bloody serious, I mean.. will remove f-spot! And other
| stuff. You could also not be able to have sex with more than a partner at
| time anymore. Use it with care. I also won’t able to give you support to any
| issue you may experience.
|
| The day it will require you to remove the whole gnome, instead, you’ll know
| we’re in big troubles.
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http://www.stefanoforenza.com/remove-mono-from-ubuntu/
Gnote 0.4.0
http://www.figuiere.net/hub/blog/?2009/05/27/670-gnote-040
Striking the Right Gnote
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| Not that Figuiere is a Mono advocate. But his opposition over the years has
| been more practical than philosophical. For instance, in several discussion
| threads about Including Mono in GNOME on the desktop-devel-list in July 2006,
| Figuiere objected to shipping Mono-based apps on the grounds that the
| language required a lot of disk space, but was supporting only minor
| applications -- and he made the same objection to Python, a far less
| contentious programming language.
|
| This objection, incidentally, is one that he continues to hold today. Gnote,
| he tells me, "has all to do with the burden of carrying runtime systems
| designed to make the programmer's life easier (but not the users'). Had
| Tomboy been written in Python, it would have gotten the same treatment."
|
| Of course, Figuiere might have soured on Mono after being laid off at Novell
| in February. But, if he did, it would be strange if he continued to use what
| he describes as an "openSUSE 11.1 custom build with SUSE Studio with some
| custom packages" -- free software versions of Novell's own products.
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http://itmanagement.earthweb.com/osrc/article.php/3822091/Striking-the-Right-Gnote.htm
Getting to know Gnote
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| What is a big deal is that Gnote does what I need it to do. The controvery
| surrounding it be hanged (and you can use your favourite search engine to
| learn about the controversy). I like Gnote. It’s useful. And until something
| better comes along, it’s going to be my note application of choice
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http://scottnesbitt.net/ubuntublog/?p=444
The elusive, royalty-free patent licence for Mono
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| How difficult or easy is it to obtain one of the much-touted "royalty-free,
| reasonable and non-discriminatory" licences for Microsoft patents that are
| part of a technology like Mono?
|
| Judging by the frequency with which references are made to such licences by
| those who back Novell vice-president Miguel de Icaza's bid to create an open
| source clone of Microsoft's .NET development environment, it's surprising
| that no-one has ever ventured to test this claim.
|
| The idea of trying to find out what was involved arose after reading a nearly
| nine-month old, well-written post defending the use of Mono and mocking its
| detractors. The author, Jo Shields, is a Debian developer and works for
| Oxford University.
|
| [...]
|
| He replied two days later, pointing out, "Ecma does not have anything to do
| with possible licensing of .NET. But Microsoft is one of our members, so I
| have asked them whom to contact there – if anything is needed, what I just do
| not know."
|
| Dr Sebestyn added: "My contact at Microsoft said that you should contact
| Peggy Moloney there, who would be able to help you."
|
| I wrote to Ms Moloney on April 28, asking for the same information: "I
| understand that the terms of the licences to the patents which Microsoft
| holds on the .NET development platform permit people to obtain a
| royalty-free, reasonable and non-discriminatory licence to use them. I would
| be grateful if you let me know exactly how one obtains such a licence."
|
| I also asked her about the variance in the terms for the licensing of
| Moonlight, a clone of Microsoft's Silverlight, using which the company hopes
| to capture the market that is dominated by Adobe's Flash. De Icaza is behind
| this project as well.
|
|
| [...]
|
| There's a been a deafening silence since then. There the matter stands after
| nearly a month. You would think that's a decent period for anyone to think
| things through and respond - if the intention of doing so exists.
|
| To me, it looks this licence is as real as the unicorn. Or maybe Santa Claus.
| I think Mono fans need to think of a fresh defence when people talk about the
| dangers of patent suits arising over this technology. The licence talk has
| worn more than a little thin.
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http://www.itwire.com/content/view/25215/1090/
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