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[News] Why Google Should Support Ogg and Stop Making up Excuses

  • Subject: [News] Why Google Should Support Ogg and Stop Making up Excuses
  • From: Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 09 Sep 2009 00:29:49 +0100
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Myths debunked: YouTube, please use Ogg Theora for HTML 5

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| It's incredible how many people are sympathetic towards Google and Apple's 
| opposition of Ogg Theora within the HTML 5 codec debate. Of course, nobody 
| expected anything else from Apple, but Google, really? Outside of YouTube, Google 
| seems to be very supportive. YouTube may still be somewhat separated from the 
| rest of Google. The site still looks more like it did pre-aquisition than it 
| looks like a Google project. The Google Chrome web browser, a "pure" Google 
| project, supports Theora, and a blog post Google made on the Ogg Theora book 
| sprint which specifically makes mention of HTML 5 leads me to wonder if they 
| might actually be planning on supporting it. 



Linux Needs Open Multimedia on the Web

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| The state of web multimedia on Linux is pitiful. Proprietary codecs, plug-ins
| and closed standards are helping to keep Linux a second rate citizen. What
| Linux needs is not another proprietary framework like Moonlight, but more
| open standards. Can Google help by making YouTube a Theora-fest?


Working with Ogg Theora and the video tag

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| The Free Software Foundation's Holmes Wilson is just back from Berlin, where
| he participated in the Ogg Theora book sprint put on by FLOSS Manuals. Here
| is a broad look at Ogg Theora and how it fits into the push for free formats:
| where we're winning, what works, and what could be improved.


Open Letter to Mozilla Regarding Their Use of HTML5 Video

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| Simply put, "Video for everybody" uses the &lt;video> tag if your browser
| supports it, using OGG video. If your browser does not support it, it falls
| back to Flash. Is Flash not supported either? QuickTime will be used (which
| allows playback on the iPhone). Don't have QuickTime either? Internet
| Explorer in Windows Vista and up will switch to Windows Media Player.


[whatwg] Google's use of FFmpeg in Chromium and Chrome

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| Saving a megabyte here and there is less important than having a video
| format that is free and open for all to use. Dailymotion.com has
| understood this and their recent offerings using <video> and Ogg
| Theora is laudable [1]. This was exactly what I've been hoping for,
| and arguing for, since the <video> element was proposed [2][3].
| [1] http://blog.dailymotion.com/2009/05/27/watch-videowithout-flash/
| [2] http://people.opera.com/howcome/2007/video/
| [3] http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5545573096553082541
| At Google, you have a unique opportunity to be part of this. You have
| the video clips, the disks, the processing power, and the talent to
| launch a service that will firmly establish <video> and Ogg Theora as
| the video solution for the web.
| However, it seems that Google doesn't care much for having a free and
| open video format. Most of the bits you put out on the web are in
| patent-encumbered formats, and this doesn't seem to bother you.
| Rather, you promote patent-encumbered formats in your new experimental
| service [4].


HTML 5: Could it kill Flash and Silverlight?

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| HTML 5, a groundbreaking upgrade to the prominent Web presentation
| specification, could become a game-changer in Web application development,
| one that might even make obsolete such plug-in-based rich Internet
| application (RIA) technologies as Adobe Flash, Microsoft Silverlight, and Sun
| JavaFX.
| The World Wide Web Consortium's (W3C) HTML 5 proposal [1] is geared toward
| Web applications, something not adequately addressed in previous incarnations
| of HTML, the W3C acknowledges. In other words, HTML 5 tackles the gap that
| Flash, Silverlight, and JavaFX are trying to fill.
| [...]
| Google may also face some touchy decisions. For example, its YouTube
| subsidiary uses Flash for its video, but the inclusion of HTML 5 capabilities
| in browsers might cause YouTube to rethink that decision, notes Fette. "It's
| a cost/benefit analysis that they'd need to make."

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