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> On Wed, 09 Sep 2009 14:33:58 +0100, Roy Schestowitz wrote:
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>> ____/ Rick on Wednesday 09 Sep 2009 10:33 : \____
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>>> On Wed, 09 Sep 2009 09:31:11 +0100, Roy Schestowitz wrote:
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>>>> ____/ Rick on Wednesday 09 Sep 2009 03:29 : \____
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>>>>> On Tue, 08 Sep 2009 22:45:19 +0100, Roy Schestowitz wrote:
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>>>>>> ____/ Rick on Tuesday 08 Sep 2009 12:00 : \____
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>>>>>>> On Tue, 08 Sep 2009 11:57:58 +0100, Roy Schestowitz wrote:
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>>>>>>>> ____/ Rick on Tuesday 08 Sep 2009 03:50 : \____
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>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 07 Sep 2009 18:47:25 -0700, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Roy Schestowitz stated in post
>>>>>>>>>> d5sen6-mfa.ln1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx on 9/7/09 2:08 AM:
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>>>>>>>>>>> KDE4 does not cease to excite.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I have been a user of KDE for about decade, but I did use
>>>>>>>>>>> almost every other desktop environment and window manager,
>>>>>>>>>>> especially in the earlier days of GNU/Linux on the desktop.
KDE
>>>>>>>>>>> came naturally to me as a SuSE user (until Novell's deal with
>>>>>>>>>>> Microsoft) and its suitability for power user was a great
plus.
>>>>>>>>>>> I still use GNOME in other places and I am pleased to say
that
>>>>>>>>>>> it's a pleasant environment too.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> My first impression of KDE 4.3 is that it is a lot simpler
for
>>>>>>>>>>> newcomers (than KDE 3) and it looks fantastic. I used earlier
>>>>>>>>>>> versions of KDE4 and they didn't cause me trouble, but this
one
>>>>>>>>>>> is almost perfect and I am unable to find noticeable wrinkles
>>>>>>>>>>> or creases. In fact, the new release incorporates so many
>>>>>>>>>>> wonderful changes that it would be irrational to ever step
back
>>>>>>>>>>> to KDE3 again.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> In the process of setting up this workstation I needed to use
>>>>>>>>>>> GParted, which is another invaluable distribution that does
>>>>>>>>>>> precisely what it says on the tin and does it nicely, too. I
am
>>>>>>>>>>> currently on Kubuntu 9.10 (alpha 5), but I did not leave
>>>>>>>>>>> Mandriva behind. In fact, almost every distribution that I
try
>>>>>>>>>>> these days leaves me satisfied. They all do, after all, share
>>>>>>>>>>> the same components; integration work is where it all counts.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> So, thumbs up to the KDE team, the Kubuntu team, and the
>>>>>>>>>>> GParted maintainer/s. At this pace, the domination of
GNU/Linux
>>>>>>>>>>> on the desktop too seems only like a matter of time.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> KDE 4 is a big step in the right direction from KDE 3...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Well, it is a big step in a direction away from KDE 3. Whether
>>>>>>>>> everything is in the "right" direction remains to be seen.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> gone are the
>>>>>>>>>> days when Konquerer was trying to be all things to all people.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Konqueror has always been made of plugins. It is still made of
>>>>>>>>> plugins. Apparently, it can still be amde to function as it
does
>>>>>>>>> in KDE 3.5.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It is an impressive piece of work.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hopefully they will continue to replace features from KDE 3.5
>>>>>>>>> that are still missing in KDE 4.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Almost everything from 3.5 is already in 4.3 and _more_. It's
>>>>>>>> organised in a way that simplifies the GUIs, so for people who
are
>>>>>>>> used to KDE 3.5 it may take time to relearn (I'm still learning
>>>>>>>> knode 4.3.1 for example, which is why I get links and linewraps
>>>>>>>> wrong).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The biggest thing missing for me is Desktop Mouse Button Actions.
>>>>>>> For me, clicking on the desktop for your menus is much easier
than
>>>>>>> moving to the top or bottom of the screen all the time.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It pays off to set up keyboard shortcuts and use the mouse very
>>>>>> little.
>>>>>>
>>>>> It may for some people, but I have been using the desktop right-
click
>>>>> since fvwm.
>>>>
>>>> I think you can configure KDE to do this. It was possible in KDE3,
>>>> IIRC. You can even make a Mac OS X-like menu at the top.
>>>>
>>> Desktop Mouse Actions, AFAIK, has not be added to KDE4 yet.
>>>
>>> In KDE 3.5: Configure Desktop -> Behavior -> Mouse Button Actions. or
>>> Menu -> Settings -> Control Center -> Desktop -> Behavior -> Mouse
>>> Button Actions
>>
>> I see... what I do in these cases is file a "wishlist" bug to express
>> desire. I did a few this week.
>>
> I have been hoping they would make it back in.. I guess I'll need to
file
> one too.
Puts you in touch with the dev, too.
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