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Codeplex Foundation Motivations Revealed
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| Microsoft man Sam Ramji reveals some of the Codeplex | Foundationâs motivations.
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| In responding to the devestating criticism of the
| Codeplex Foundationâs fundamentally flawed
| organization and the high skepticism of its motives,
| Mr. Ramji revealed a bit of the true motives behind
| the Codeplex Foundation:
|
| Look at projects related to Mono, you also can
| look at NUnit, NHibernate, we really feel
| optimistic that the Foundation could help them
| gain a higher level of credibility in the open
| source community. They feel they have been
| lacking that strong moral support.
|
| Break that down and chew on it a bit!
|
| Mr. Ramji is saying you know those Microsoft-
| approved âOpen Sourceâ projects like Mono? And you
| know how the Open Source community keeps rejecting
| them? Well Microsoft is going to create our own
| playing field and support them!
|
| [...]
|
| Microsoft is not new at leveraging its considerable
| resources into creating a rubber-stamp pre-approved
| situation, especially when the real and existing
| community doesnât want anything to do with
| Microsoftâs offerings â <cough> OOXML</cough> â and
| the CodePlex Foundation is just another example of
| that.
|
| The very idea that Microsoft can even set up an
| independent Open Source foundation is absolutely
| ludicrious. Pick any absurd analogy you like:
| Yankees fans setting up a Red Sox Appreciation
| Society, the Klan setting up a Civil Rights
| commission, Nickleback fans setting up a music
| appreciation group, whatever.
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http://www.the-source.com/2009/09/codeplex-foundation-motivations-revealed/
Recent:
Touristâs Guide to Microsoftâs Potemkin Village
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| To me, when someone starts heralding Microsoft - it instantly raises astroturf
| / shill suspicions in my mind. Automatic acceptance and praise not only puts
| aside natural and justified skepticism, but it also skips right over âwait and
| seeâ into fanboy-land. I do not see how that is an intellectually honest
| position to take.
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http://mono-nono.com/2009/09/15/tourists-guide-to-microsofts-potemkin-village/
The CodePlex Foundation: First Impressions (and Recommendations)
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| Q: What about the CodePlex mission? How does that sound?
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| A: I had to smile a bit when I listened to the (scripted) interview at the
| site. The premise seems to be that (a) âsome companiesâ have âcultureâ
| problems that keep them out of open source projects, or are âuneasyâ with the
| âintellectual propertyâ rules of open source foundations; (b) that âmore
| companiesâ would participate âas much as they shouldâ if better practices, and
| intellectual property tools, were developed; and (c) that a place is needed to
| bring âsuch companiesâ and open source developers together. Itâs clear that
| all of these statements would be true if you substituted âMicrosoftâ for the
| phrase, âsome companies,â but I havenât noticed that any of these factors has
| been a problem for most other software vendors.
|
| This slide from the interview will give you the flavor:
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| Â Commercial software developers currently under-participate in open source
| projects
| - Cultural differences
| - Differing development methodologies
| - Differing perspectives on copyrights and patents
| - Differing perspectives on licensing
| Â No other foundation is dedicated to changing that situation
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http://www.consortiuminfo.org/standardsblog/article.php?story=20090914102959510
CodePlex Foundation founding flawed says legal expert
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| Andrew Updegrove, co-creator of the MIT licence and an expert in creating
| consortiums, has examined the founding documents of CodePlex Foundation and
| believes its creation is flawed. Updegrove, in an extensive article on
| Consortiuminfo.org, points to the lack of initial co-sponsors, the small size
| of the board, which in 100 days time is scheduled to shrink from 5 to only 6
| members and to the fact that the majority of its members are Microsoft
| employed. He also notes that the foundation has not been set up as a
| membership organisation which he says is "very unusual for an organisation
| operating in an area that usually relies on consensus".
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http://www.h-online.com/open/CodePlex-Foundation-founding-flawed-says-legal-expert--/news/114235
Codeplex Foundation â Microsoft loves FOSS?
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| In the meantime Microsoft is looking for a new open source person to
| fill the space left by Mr Ramji.
| My money is on Mr De Icazza â he has sure earned it (IMO).
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http://openbytes.wordpress.com/2009/09/11/codeplex-foundation-microsoft-loves-foss/
A look at the CodePlex Foundation
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| âMisunderstandings on both sidesâ? Could that have anything at all to do
| with the decade of misinformation and FUD Microsoft has directly and
| indirectly funded, including the Best Buy disinformation campaign
| running at this very moment?
|
| The chutzpah it must have taken for the author to actually type out that
| sentence, knowing full well that his own employer is the overwhelmingly
| largest single engine of misinformation, lies and destruction aimed at
| the Open Source community! You almost have to admire a man you can look
| you right in the eye and lie, knowing that you know that he knows that
| you know he is lying!
|
| And there we have the fatal flaw of the CodePlex Foundation revealed:
| because it is a Microsoft mouthpiece, it can not speak directly and
| honestly about the single biggest challenge Free and Open Source
| Software faces - the aggressive hostility and lies spread about it by
| Microsoft.
|
| [...]
|
| The amazing thing is some people believe it! I guess some people fall
| for Nigerian scams, order Vigara from links in random email, and
| franticially dial 1-800 numbers during infomercials so they can get the
| deal that is ONLY AVAILABLE TO CALLERS IN THE NEXT 5 MINUTES!!!
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http://www.the-source.com/2009/09/a-look-at-the-codeplex-foundation/
Miguel joins Microsoft board, slams FSF
http://mono-nono.com/2009/09/11/miguel-joins-microsoft-board-slams-fsf/
Microsoft launches open source foundation
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| The foundation is initially being funded by Microsoft and will be led by
| Microsoft's Sam Ramji (**UPDATED** Ramji is leaving Microsoft on
| September 25th) . Novell's Miguel de Icaza will be part of the new
| foundation's Board of Directors (don't forget Microsoft and Novell have
| an interop and patent deal).
|
| So why does Microsoft need its own open source foundation? And what's
| the difference vs what they are doing with Codeplex.com anyways?
|
| [...]
|
| I understand that CodePlex has its own ecosystem, but I would have
| expected the path to commercialization might have been better served
| through Microsoft itself rather than some shell open source foundation.
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http://blog.internetnews.com/skerner/2009/09/microsoft-launches-open-source.html
New Microsoft-backed open source foundation faces questions
http://arstechnica.com/open-source/news/2009/09/new-microsoft-backed-open-source-foundation-faces-questions.ars
If Microsoft really wants to be friends with Linux...
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| Microsoft has created a new foundation, the CodePlex Foundation which
| claims to be about bringing open-source and proprietary software
| companies together to participate side by side in open-source projects.
| Yeah. Right.
|
| [...]
|
| Besides, just like the snake in the story, Microsoft is more than happy
| to poison open-source software even as it proclaims that it wants to co-
| operate with open source. Just off the top of my head there's the
| revelation that Microsoft's ExpertZone training for Best Buy and other
| retailers is stuffed with anti-Linux lies.
|
| And, then there's Microsoft's patent attacks on open-source using
| companies like TomTom and its thwarted efforts to sell anti-Linux
| patents to a patent troll. According to Jim Zemlin, executive director
| of the Linux Foundation, "The details are that Microsoft assembled a
| package of patents 'relating to open source' and put them up for sale to
| patent trolls. Microsoft thought they were selling them to AST, a group
| that buys patents, offers licenses to its members, and then resells the
| patents." What actually happened was that Microsoft ended up selling the
| patents to the Open Invention Network, a pro-Linux intellectual-property
| organization.
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http://blogs.computerworld.com/14716/if_microsoft_really_wants_to_be_friends_with_linux
Microsoft and Patent Trolls
http://press.redhat.com/2009/09/09/microsoft-and-patent-trolls/
Microsoft Launches Open Source Foundation
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| Other interim board members of the new foundation are primarily from
| Microsoft, at this point. They include Bill Staples, head of
| Microsoftâs Internet Information Services team; Stephanie Boesch, a
| Microsoft Program Manager for the .Net Framework; Miguel de Icaza, Vice
| President of Developer Platform at Novell; Britt Johnston, a Microsoft
| Product Unit Manager for Data and Modeling; and Shaun Walker, Co-
| founder and Chief Architect of DotNetNuke.
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http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Linux-and-Open-Source/Microsoft-Launches-Open-Source-Foundation-431416/?kc=deicazaisalamer
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